Nasty one solved for now. Did a PMI production management software upgrade last week and have been upgrading the clients gradually across the XenApp boxes. Turns out it's the culprit, no idea why just yet. When removed SAP and its JAVA app functions correctly! Will have to go back to the vendor with this.. Thanks for the responses! Regards, Ronnie From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Wood Sent: 10 October 2012 16:24 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: SAP - Java issue no XenApp Might it be an add-in for MS Office that is causing the problem? Is it possible to run up a server without Office? From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hamilton, Ronnie Sent: 10 October 2012 13:54 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: SAP - Java issue no XenApp Something like that Biggest issue for me is that it worked on Servers before rebuild to introduce Office 2010, apart from one server which I can't find any differences in, mostly built from SCCM application packages. What gets me is that when it works on a server it does not call the java.exe process but you see the Java console in the task bar. With the newly built servers after you launch IE and run the SAP process you actually see the java.exe process being called. Very strange behaviour .... Regards, Ronnie From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Wood Sent: 10 October 2012 12:41 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: SAP - Java issue no XenApp ..like some sort of "IE when launched first time" problem? From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hamilton, Ronnie Sent: 10 October 2012 12:23 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: SAP - Java issue no XenApp Hi Andrew, Sorry XenApp5, in middle of XenApp 6 testing on 2008 but that's another days work. I have proved that if I log on and run IE It works fine. If I log out and back in it stops working. So I left roaming profile on server and when I log back in it is still working so it's something from the Application Data\Local Settings folder that gets deleted. I can see that when I launch IE that lots of activity on this folder from Process Explorer. Just going to try and replace the default profile with a user profile that has had IE ran in it and see of that helps Regards, Ronnie From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Wood Sent: 10 October 2012 12:04 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: SAP - Java issue no XenApp XenApp 6 on 2003?! 2008R2 surely? Which version of IE? If you use roaming profiles, then the profile component comes back when the user logs back on yes? Might it be some HKCU/HKLM issue? Does this happen for admins? From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hamilton, Ronnie Sent: 10 October 2012 09:43 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] SAP - Java issue no XenApp Hi, SAP 7.20 on XenApp 6 server 2003 There is a custom component written in Java that SAP calls. Issue When the transaction is called it does not call the Java component. If I run IE first then the custom component is called fine. All I can figure is that IE populates some Reg key of part of the profile that gets nuked on log out as we use roaming profiles. I have been running process monitor and explorer for a few days and just going round in circles. Seems to be fine on workstations but as the local setting in the profile stays after logout this makes sence. Any thoughts ? Thanks Ronnie Ronnie Hamilton Senior Network Engineer Lufthansa Technik Airmotive Ireland IT Department Naas Road, Rathcoole Co. Dublin, Ireland Phone: +353 1 401 1253 E-mail: ronnie.hamilton@xxxxxxx <mailto:ronnie.hamilton@xxxxxxx> www.ltai.ie Visit our website : www.ltai.ie __________________________________________ Lufthansa Technik Airmotive Ireland Limited. Registered in Ireland. Reg. No. 45999. Registered Office: Naas Road, Rathcoole, Co.Dublin. Lufthansa Technik Airmotive Ireland Leasing Limited. Registered in Ireland. Reg. No. 140891. Registered Office: Naas Road, Rathcoole, Co.Dublin. __________________________________________ The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender by return email. You should not read, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, disclose or use this email or its contents in any way. Any such action is strictly prohibited. Thank you.