[THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
- From: "Luchette, Jon" <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:20:35 -0400
that is not really what i was saying, but I do see your point Joe.
I was just saying that if I have a server (Citrix, SQL, Exchange, etc..,
doesn't matter)
it would cost me the same to implement it in a boot from SAN config,
than it would to connect up additional storage on the SAN to it without
"booting from SAN"
that is all...
do you see what I am saying?
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:54 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
If your saying it doesn't cost anymore to implement SAN for Citrix than
say implementing SAN for Exchange and SQL then I'd say that is
incorrect. A cost analysis more than just the $$ on the invoice. There
is maintenance costs, administrative costs, support costs, etc which all
tend to escalate. So now your adding 30 more servers to the SAN and
what have you gained? So you can clone a server in a couple of minutes?
Big deal... I can ghost a server in 10 minutes or build one from scratch
in an hour. How often are servers being cloned/rebuilt?
Joe
On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
right but my point is that he was saying that "booting from san"
would cost you more than just using the san for other disks which I
don't agree with. you would need the adaptors either way...
the concept of booting from san doesn't cost you anything as
compared to normal use of the san on a server.
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Matheis
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:26 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
You still need 2 adapters (for redundancy) per server, plus SAN
ports, usually there is management software associated with the SAN
which is licensed per connection, etc.... This person is problem
referring to all of the overall costs that add about $5k or more each
time you hook a device up.
Thanks
Jeff Matheis
Kimball International, Inc.
812-482-8302
jmathei@xxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:14 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
well you really don't need more disk to boot from SAN than you
would if you were just using the SAN for regular storage. especially
for citrix, you don't need alot of disk for citrix boxes...
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eldon
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:59 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
my understanding is that it was disk cost - the # of spindles
needing to be allocated, multiplied by the number of servers booting
from SAN.....
On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
right, what is he talking about. because if he is
talking about the hba's then that is not specific to booting from the
san, but just something that you will need if you want to use your san
at all...?
what is he talking about?
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf
Of Landin, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:23 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
What cost does he associate with boot-from-SAN?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf
Of Eldon
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:13 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] SAN Benefits for Citrix
My organization just installed an EMC SAN and I
was thinking how I could use it to benefit my current (XP FR3) and
future (upgrading to PS 4) environment. How can I use the SAN to
enhance my Citrix deployment (currently 15 servers, 250 concurrent
users, hardware become outdated and soon needs replacement)? I was told
by our SAN Admin that booting new servers from the SAN would probably be
cost prohibitive.
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