[THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:54:04 -0700

If your saying it doesn't cost anymore to implement SAN for Citrix than say
implementing SAN for Exchange and SQL then I'd say that is incorrect.  A
cost analysis more than just the $$ on the invoice.  There is maintenance
costs, administrative costs, support costs, etc which all tend to
escalate.    So now your adding 30 more servers to the SAN and what have you
gained?  So you can clone a server in a couple of minutes?  Big deal... I
can ghost a server in 10 minutes or build one from scratch in an hour.  How
often are servers being cloned/rebuilt?

Joe

On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

right but my point is that he was saying that "booting from san" would cost you more than just using the san for other disks which I don't agree with. you would need the adaptors either way...

the concept of booting from san doesn't cost you anything as compared to
normal use of the san on a server.


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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Jeff Matheis
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:26 AM

*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

 You still need 2 adapters (for redundancy) per server, plus SAN
ports, usually there is management software associated with the SAN which is
licensed per connection, etc....  This person is problem referring to all of
the overall costs that add about $5k or more each time you hook a device
up.


Thanks

Jeff Matheis
Kimball International, Inc.
812-482-8302
jmathei@xxxxxxxxxxx


------------------------------ *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Luchette, Jon *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:14 AM

*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

 well you really don't need more disk to boot from SAN than you would if
you were just using the SAN for regular storage.  especially for citrix, you
don't need alot of disk for citrix boxes...


_______________________________________________

*Jon Luchette
*** *Emerson Hospital*
 *Technology Specialist III*
 *Work: 978-287-3369*
 *Cell:  978-360-1379*

jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*_______________________________________________*



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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Eldon
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:59 AM

*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix

my understanding is that it was disk cost - the # of spindles needing to
be allocated, multiplied by the number of servers booting from SAN.....

On 7/19/06, Luchette, Jon <JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  right, what is he talking about. because if he is talking about the
> hba's then that is not specific to booting from the san, but just something
> that you will need if you want to use your san at all...?
>
> what is he talking about?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> *Jon Luchette
> *** *Emerson Hospital*
> *Technology Specialist III*
>  *Work: 978-287-3369*
> *Cell:  978-360-1379*
>
> jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *_______________________________________________*
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Landin, Mark
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:23 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: SAN Benefits for Citrix
>
>
>  What cost does he associate with boot-from-SAN?
>
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Eldon
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:13 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] SAN Benefits for Citrix
>
>
>  My organization just installed an EMC SAN and I was thinking how I
> could use it to benefit my current (XP FR3) and future (upgrading to PS 4)
> environment.  How can I use the SAN to enhance my Citrix deployment
> (currently 15 servers, 250 concurrent users, hardware become outdated and
> soon needs replacement)?  I was told by our SAN Admin that booting new
> servers from the SAN would probably be cost prohibitive.
>
>

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