[THIN] Re: RE : Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem youdeal with?
- From: Rick Bestany <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:31:06 -0500
I would like a copy also, please.
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 11:02, Bennett, Cameron wrote:
> I would certainly appreciate a copy as well.
>
> Cameron
> =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Beh=
> alf Of Goudreault.Louis@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: February 16, 2004 10:54 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] RE : Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with=
> ?
>
> I'd like to have a copy too.
>
> Or maybe you should post it on the list, Than everyone could benefit from=
> it.
>
> After all, isn't what this list is all about?
>
> Louis
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Ian Aston [mailto:iaston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Envoy=E9 : 16 f=E9vrier 2004=
> 10:04 =C0 : thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Objet : [THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the big=
> gest problem you deal with?
>
>
> Hi David,
> I will send them to you off list... unless anyone else wants them too?=20
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Teague
> To: Ian Aston
> Sent: 16/02/2004 15:02
> Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
>
> Ian,
> Could I get a copy of the reboot scripts? I have been trying to put one
> together for my three server ASP farm, but have not had much success, if =
> you
> don't mind sending me a copy of those scripts I would greatly appreciate =
> it.
>
> David Teague
> TMTsoftware
> Support Analyst
> 919.493.4433
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Aston [mailto:iaston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:50 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
>
> I agree 100% with this Matt. I have implemented numerous farms and I alwa=
> ys
> insist on nightly reboots. I have put forth the same logical arguments as
> you have. Another thing I try and educate our clients about is getting th=
> em
> out of the massive server uptime frame of mind. It's server hardware
> performing desktop functions. Generally they come around to my way of
> thinking when I tell them that the farm and applications will have 100%
> availability and the servers don't need that.=20
> My reboot script (or set of scripts) sends a message to users, disables
> logons, sends another message, waits, kicks them out if they don't log ou=
> t,
> reboots, deletes profiles that are still present (no matter what there ar=
> e
> always dodgy rogue profiles kicking about!!) logs an event to the event l=
> og
> and then re-enables logons. I have found that implementing this has helpe=
> d
> to solve loads of major and minor issues that were occuring in farms that=
> I
> was not involved in building.
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 16/02/2004 14:39
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
>
> We have 4 different farms (W2K MFXP) all rebooted nightly in a staggered
> fashion. I tell our customers who balk at nightly reboots this line of
> logic. Do you let your desktop Windows PC run without reboot for days on
> end? Now imagine the same PC being used by 30-40 people a day would you
> still not reboot frequently? This usually convinces them as everyone has
> had a Windows desktop go south on them (Yes even W2K or XP).
>
> I know where people are coming from when they ask this though. They feel =
> the
> reboot simply masks underlying stability problems. I used to reboot only
> 1/week but the lowest common denominator is the crappiest application on =
> the
> box. There is a lot of crap out there these days.
>
> It just doesn't make sense with the poorly written apps and weekly securi=
> ty
> patches that impact a terminal server these days not to clean it up with =
> a
> reboot after hours nightly.
>
> >>> Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 2/16/2004 4:38:36 AM >>>
> 2 nt4 servers here, MF1.8, we reboot nightly! :o
>
> tends to solve more problems and keep things smooth i find :)
>
> Andrew
> --o--
>
> >>> ssun@xxxxxxxx 13/02/04 19:44:46 >>>
>
>
>
> On a side note, I was wondering how many of you have a reboot schedule
> enable on your Metaframe farm. What OS and the how often you reboot.=20
> IF
> you stagger the reboots in different parts of the farm, etc.
>
> I've a client who absolutely refuses to schedule reboots on the farm, The=
> y
> have Windows 2000 farm and firmly believe that Windows 2000 does NOT requ=
> ire
> reboots. I believe that part of the problem is that they do not want
> unattended reboots, as they are afraid servers will not come back up.=20
> Seems
> kinda funky to me, but I wanted to get a feel for what the rest of the
> communicty is doing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Spencer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20=20
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:25 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
> Subject: [THIN] OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
> Since it's Friday I thought I'd ask something that I've been wondering fo=
> r a
> long time.
>
>
>
> I'm a consultant and I focus 100% on Citrix and server-based computing.
> While I work with a lot of different IT departments, I've never actually =
> had
> to run my own Citrix farm day after day. (Which means I'm either totally
> lucky or a total sham!)
>
>
>
> Anyway, as Citrix administrators, what's the one thing that's the biggest
> pain in the butt in running your Citrix farms? Printing? AV? Security
> Patches? Profiles?
>
>
>
> Hmm. maybe I should say "other than the users, what's the biggest pain?"
> :-)
>
>
>
> Just curious,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> Brian Madden
>
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