[THIN] Re: Question re: SATA drives

  • From: Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:43:33 -0500

Everyone's experiences are different.  I purchased 4 brand new Seagate
750g SATA drievs and put then in an Infrant ReadyNAS 1000.  Within 1
week of being online, I had SMART errors on a drive and it needed to be
replaced.  The only thing that drive actually ever did was have to go
through the initial RAID5 built,. and transferring of about 200g if
data.   
 
I've had plenty of SCSI drives fail, but nothing THAT fast.  Curiously,
I've yet to have a Seagate SCSI drive fail in my Dell servers.  But I've
had Quantum, Maxtor, WDC, and Fujitsu all fail.  Interesting, eh?

I'm of the opinion that SCSI drives are built to higher standards.  I
have no substantiated proof of this except my own personal experiences.
 
That being said, we are using SATA for inexpensive non-primary storage
in our SANs because a shelf of SATA is far cheaper then a shelf of FC.
However, every SAN manufacturer we spoke with directly (about 5 or 6)
all said that their global failure rates for SATA are much higher then
SCSI.
 


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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Armstrong, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Question re: SATA drives


My opinion is there is not a problem running SATA drives.  To be honest,
I manage a data facility and we have over 450 SCSI drives in the servers
hosted at the facility and SCSI drives fail too.  I replace 1 to 2 SCSI
drives per calendar quarter.  I run 42 SATA 1 drives in an Equallogic
SAN.  This SAN has been online for 14 months and I have not lost a
single drive (these drives run 24x7x365) as the array is hosting several
large production SQL server databases and a large file repository that
receives over 3500 new files per day.  That array never sleeps.  So, as
far a Citrix is concerned, I wouldn't be concerned about running any of
the components from SATA disk drives.  Just make sure you use sound RAID
design (as you would with SCSI drives too) for fault tolerance and you
should have no problems.  keep a spare drive on the shelf or online as a
hot-spare if your RAID hardware supports hot spares.
 
Regards,
Rob

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Trotier
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:35 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Question re: SATA drives



My apologies if this is a repeat: 

A client just asked me if there is any reason they cannot run Citrix AS4
on a server using SATA drives. 
I have no idea - never tried, but cannot find anything regarding this
issue.  Anyone have any experience with this? 

Thanks- 

Chris 

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