[THIN] Re: Project 2003 ADM

  • From: "BRUTON, Malcolm, FM" <Malcolm.BRUTON@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:48:39 +0100

Hope you've got lots of money.  It is expensive but it is a very good
enterprise product.  Had the chaps in today and we talked a bit more about
the new versions which arrive in July.  It does have some overlap with the
new features in PS4.  The CPU and DLL management piece.  However the rest of
the suite which has the security functions and the ability to hide menus etc
are great.   It can also stop users typing hyperlinks in a word document.





From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Matthew Shrewsbury
Sent: 17 May 2005 15:41
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Project 2003 ADM


I saw a demo of that product and I had to say wow! That looks like a very
impressive product. I hope Microsoft copies this in the future...


Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+

Senior Network Administrator

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Project 2003 ADM


Or if you are lazy...get your hands on the new Appsense Environment
Manager.... ; )


I had a demo of this last monday at our NEOCUG meeting and I have to tell
you it is the bomb!

You can take out, edit or change almost any part of the desktop or
application via a policy just by clicking on and editing the item.  


Rick Mack > wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Project 2003 works fine alongside Office XP as does Visio 2003. 

Use a transform created using the Office 2003 Custom install wizard to
make sure that you don't install all the office add-ons. That way you
don't clobber any Office XP components.

Also make sure you use the re-released adm file mentioned in KB841003. 

It's still pretty primitive and in your cae is missing the bit you
require which is a reference to DisabledCmdBarItemsCheckBoxes and
DisabledCmdBarItemsList. Values under these keys can be used to
disable any menu bar options.

You've got 2 possible strategies.

You may get away with just copying the appropriate section of the
Word11.adm and removing the bits you don't want. Use the command
controls browser
(http://www.siam-consulting.com/download/CmdBarBrowser.exe) to make
sure the appr opriate ids are the same.

Of course one quite possible scenario is that disabling commandbar
items isn't supported in Project 2003.

Then you'll need to do a DLL hack using reshacker.

All the menus, buttons, dialogs etc for Project 2003 are all exposed
in a single DLL, but you've got to find out which one.

The strategy for doing that is fairly simple.

Identify the string you want in the menu you want to modify. Avoid
using the first part of the string because any highlighted letters
have a different string structure.

So for Project we'll be looking for "Detect and" because the R in
repair is highlighted.

- Get listdlls.exe and strings.exe from www.sysinternals.com.
- Get reshacker (I think Jim has it on thethin.net downloads)
- Run up project 2003

Now run listdlls against project. If you do it with the "for" command
it'll save you some editting to extract the dll names) eg

for /f "tokens=1,2 delims =:" %i in ('listdlls -r winproj,exe') do
@echo c:%j >> projdlls.txt


for /f "delims=!" %i in (projdlls.txt) do @echo %i >> projstrings.txt
& strings "%i" | find "Detect and" >> projstrings.txt

Have a look at projstrings.txt and you'll have to relevant DLL to use
reshacker against.

Basically what you do with reshacker is open the relevant DLL, search
for the text string you're after, and when you find the appropriate
menu or dialog section, you can delete the line containing the Detect
and Repair option, recompile the script and save the DLL. Drop the
modified DLL on to your servers and the detect and repair option is

The only other possible problem is if detect and repair is in a system
DLL. Can't help you at the moment because I haven't got time to check.
But if that's the case, email me and I'l show you how to bundle the
modified DLL into a hotfix.



On 5/14/05, Matthew Shrewsbury wrote:
> I have Office XP but I now need to install Project 2003 along side Office
> XP. 
> 1) Does anyone have ADM files to remove detect and repair? 
> 2) Anyone tried running Office XP and Project 2003 on the same server?
> Thanks for any input,
> Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+
> Senior Network Administrator

Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems
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