[THIN] Re: Production Metaframe on VMWare ESX

  • From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:52:07 -0700

That is fascinating that you could maintain an active ICA session while the
server instance was moved! I agree about blades, we do blades for some
customers, standard servers for others and VMWare now for specialized
instances. They all have their various merits and it seems that based on the
needs of the environment they are all valid solutions.

This is what keeps it all interesting!

Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax 
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Production Metaframe on VMWare ESX


 
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I know for a fact that Citrix has tested this exact situation out.  I can
further tell you that with combining ESX and Vmotino (included with
VirtualCenter), you can provide 100% uptime.  There was a test that was
performed with moving a VM from one host to another with an active ICA
session.  I was NEVER dropped during the move.

VM is a great alternative to blade servers.  The only downside is that you
are in fact relying on one host machine.  BUT, with VirtualCenter, you can
be online within seconds after a failure.

ESX is not cheap, but neither are the HP Proliant BL series, or even the IBM
blades.  The whole idea is to partition hardware to different services
(whether they reside within a VM on a host, or across different hosts
participating within a grid, Grid Computing), and to utilize all of the
hardware.

Albeit, a MF server should have a decent amount of hardware behind it to
support a number of users.  But, VM is a great alternative to blades.  Same
philosophy, different roads.  Both have their pros and cons.

Chris 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Eric S. Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Production Metaframe on VMWare ESX

I would be interested in hearing more about your project.  What benefit are
you hoping to gain, I could see a few advantages, but I see more overhead
than benefit.


Eric S. Perkins
Performance Network Solutions
esp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:56
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Production Metaframe on VMWare ESX 


Does anyone have experience with running production systems of MF XP on
VMWare ESX server? We are working on a project with this idea in mind and
would appreciate and feedback from others who have tried this approach. 

Regards, 

Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 


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