HI, We spent quite a bit of time, with HP involved (Rob Tuft), in finding out that a lot of the newer HP printer drivers had a bug where the driver would stay in memory until the user logged out. As HP added more driver functionality and complexity (more DLLS, bigger memory footprint) this could result in a server not being able to load any more printer drivers into kernel memory. And everybody who tried to print to that printer, or others using the same driver, couldn't print. After a while, as users logged out, things would start working again. HP discovered the same problem in their win2k drivers, but were working with Microsoft to resolve this problem. Course I thought that they had, fixed it I mean. Though what you're describing seems awfully familiar. The only "fix" with NT 4 was to restrict the number of drivers used, generally by using the same drivers for a series of HP printers, and using native, non-HP supplied drivers wherever possible. Regards, Rick Ulrich Mack rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Volante Systems 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia tel +61 7 32467704 -----Original Message----- From: Grant Alexander [mailto:Grant.Alexander@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:51 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Printer Weirdness We have recently "upgraded" from Windows NT TSE to Windows 2000 Terminal Services (Citrix Metaframe XP in both scenarios). We have a Windows NT server doing file and print. From time to time we experience a problem where one of the Citrix servers will take a dislike to one make/model of a printer. Anyone who has that printer set as their default printer will be unable to print. When trying to print a test page to one of these printers as administrator I get "Test page failed to print." I thought this must have been a problem in the Windows NT printer subsystem, but it has been showing up under Windows 2000 TS. Yesterday on server turned its nose up at HP LaserJet 2100s; today its the HP LaserJet 4V. It is only one server in the farm - the other two are quite happy with the printer. I can print test pages from the WinNT file and print box. I can select the out of favour printer and change the printer driver to HP LaserJet 4 and BINGO it prints. I have tried restarting the spooler. It doesn't work. So far the only fool proof way of getting these printers back in favour is to reboot the server. YUCK. Any ideas/suggestions etc? Grant Alexander Computing Systems Manager PF Olsen and Company Limited Ph: 07 921 1016 ext 830 ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - IDP ServerBoss Restrict, Manage and Control Access to your applications and other valuable Citrix, Windows NT, 2000 and 2003 Server Resources http://www.serverboss.com/default.asp?partner=thethin ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you receive this e-mail by mistake please promptly inform us by reply e-mail and then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. You must not disclose or use in any way the information in the e-mail. There is no warranty that this email or any attachment or message is error or virus free. It may be a private communication, and if so, does not represent the views of Volante group Limited.