Thanks Rick for your information. I didn't know about this tool. I have checked the "SMC Console" and it works fine with Citrix Presentation 4. Unfortunately it doesn't work on Citrix XP Zygmunt Cwalinski, System Analyst Network Services ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: November 1, 2006 3:04 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Printer Bandwidth Hi Zygmunt, XP will let you throttle printer bandwidth for autocreated client printers on a server basis. Printer bandwidth throttling has the disadvantage that it will slow all printing to autocreated client printers, whether the bandwidth is available or not. Mark is quite correct in saying that printing via the ICA virtual channel (autocreated printer) will consume as much bandwidth as it can. For a single user this isn't a problem at all becuase the printer traffic is backgrounded and prioritized not to interfere with keyboard/video updates etc. But if you've got multiple user's sharing the same link and all using autocreated client printers, then one user's print job can certainly impact on the other user's sessions. In this scenario, you will either have to resort to printer bandwidth throttling, or a much better solution if possible is to print to a network printer on the remote site. That let's you set network QOS to be optimised for ICA and all printing will run at a lower priority but can take as much spare bandwidth as is available. A tool that would let you monitor a sessions printer bandwidth utilisation is the SMCConsole which I think is part of the Citrix server SDK (downloadable from CDN) or as part of homas Koetzing's SBC Reskit (http://www.thomaskoetzing.de/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_downl oad&Itemid=0&gid=114). regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Landin, Mark Sent: Thu 2/11/2006 4:35 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Printer Bandwidth Assume printing will consume all available bandwidth for as long as it takes to transmit the job. Most printers can accept print jobs into memory pretty fast, so the constraint is typically the slowest network link between the host generating the print job and the device being asked to print it. Some third-party printing utitlies let you throttle printing bandwidth, but Metaframe XP won't. I don't know if Presentation Server 4 (or the upcoming 4.5) have any capabilities in this area. Third party printing utilities also sometimes use their own print job formats and protocols, and that can also have a positive impact on print job size and thus transmission rates. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cwalinski, Zygmunt Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:57 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Printer Bandwidth We are publishing company with 9 Citrix XP farm. We are going to centralize the farms. Our users print a lot of pages every day (e.g. 3 users print 5000 pages a day). Before we start centralizing our farms I need to know what the Output Printer Bandwidth is. I would like to monitor printer bandwidth using Performance monitor utility but I can't see any counter which allows monitoring the bandwidth. Can someone shed some light on this for me please? Thanks, Zygmunt Cwalinski, System Analyst Network Services ######################################################################## ############# This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this e-mail and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this e-mail and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. ######################################################################## #############