[THIN] Re: Permissions and printing (cont)

  • From: "Gunn, Jeff" <Jeff.Gunn@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:11:21 -0400

Stuart - 

The issue is consistently screwed up across the whole farm?  Do you get the
same behavior for all non-admin users regardless of the time of day, server
load, and printer they are printing to?  

Would it be possible for you to slice off a machine, maybe after hours, to
dig around on?  

I would look, as you said, for a permissions problem as a first cause -
maybe the print process is unable to access a resource (DLL, temp file,
network resource, etc) and is retrying until finally giving up and
continuing.  Trying to track something like that with Filemon or Regmon
might be a challenge with users working on the system - especially if you
get high user count per box - but if the problem is consistently
reproducible, then "borrowing" a server temporarily or testing after hours
would make it easier.

        -Jeff
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:18 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> This is a long shot, but could it be related to the print 
> priority (1-99 I
> think)...
> 
> I guess I'm wondering if something is getting bogged down, 
> but the admin's
> job gets top priority in the queue so it moves right through. 
> Of course
> while that could explain why it flies for admins, it wouldn't 
> explain what
> was causing your problem.
> 
> Brian
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Stuart Hall
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:56 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Permissions and printing (cont)
> 
> Hi Ron, 
> 
> No, I don't use the UPD...it sucks in FR1.  
> 
> The weird part is if an Admin logs in and prints the same job 
> it prints
> fast.  If a regular user prints it takes 30 minutes.  We did a recent
> upgrade that just involved copying some new DLL's for our 
> application.  Not
> sure if that's related.
> 
> It definitely appears to be permissions, I'm just not sure 
> where..my spool
> folder has read and execute. 
> 
> Any big Citrix brains have any ideas?  Should I just push the 
> issue for FR3?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Stuart 
> 
> Msg: #33 in digest
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Printing and permissions
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:40:05 -0500
> From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> 
> Not using the UPD are ya? If look at a user's printn job that 
> is slow does
> it have [PCL4:UPD] or something to that affect after it. 
>   
> 
> Ron Oglesby 
> 
> Senior Technical Architect 
> 
>   
> 
> RapidApp 
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>   
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Stuart Hall [mailto:SHall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:SHall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> ] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:11 PM 
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: [THIN] Printing and permissions 
> 
>   
> 
> 16 server XP FR1 farm with custom mortgage application called 
> Empower. 
> Network printers are being mapped as client printers. 
> 
> ~700 users at 30 different locations who do a ton of printing (think 
> refi paperwork at a mortgage company).  All is well until recently, 
> large print jobs are taking upwards of 30 minutes to process.  
> 
> Here's the kicker........if you're an admin on the citrix box 
> and print 
> your print job FLYS.  If you're a user, it's dog slow....and I'm not 
> sure why. 
> 
> Ideas?  Thoughts on FR3 and printing? 
> 
> Thanks in advance! 
> 
> Stuart Hall 
> Accredited Home Capital 
> San Diego, CA - HQ 
> 
> 
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