[THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6

  • From: "msemon@xxxxxxx" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:53:01 -0400

For HP printers supported you can google for the doc titled
"HP Printers Supported in Citrix Metaframe Presentation Server environments"

Are you seeing any issues with retaining client default printer settings?
We have checked the setting in Citrix Connection Configuration under Client
Settings to default to Main Client Printer. However, sometimes it loses the
setting and defaults to another network printer or local printer.  I think
it may be caused by a bad mapping or driver.

-Mike


Original Message:
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From: Jeff Soules jsoules@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:45:39 -0400
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6


> Currently I am going down the same path trying to utilize the PCL
> 5e driver or postscript driver. Also, we are trying to limit the number of
drivers
> installed on the server and using mappings when possible.

How do you decide what to map in order to limit this number -- mapping
printers to related members of the same family?  Or something more sneaky?

We've been having issues especially with the 4 series (4200, 4800, 4050,
etc).  Though it could be those just happen to be the printers our clients
use.

> Have you installed any of the newer HP drivers that are suppose to be be
Terminal server
> compatible or are you using the native drivers from the CD?

Well, we've been installing the latest available versions from HP's website.
I haven't seen anything that specifically labels them as especially TS
compatible, but they're the most up-to-date driver versions available.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of msemon@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:52 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6
>
>
> We have had issues with HP Laserjet printers (1300,2200,2300,8150, etc.)
> not mapping correctly, slow printing, print jobs showing up as lanscape vs
> portrait and on and on....
>
> Currently I am going down the same path trying to utilize the PCL
> 5e driver
> or postscript driver. Also, we are trying to limit the number of drivers
> installed on the server and using mappings when possible. Have
> you installed
> any of the newer HP drivers that are suppose to be be Terminal server
> compatible or are you using the native drivers from the CD?
>
> -Mike
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Jeff Soules jsoules@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 09:42:33 -0400
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6
>
>
> We have also been having numerous printing issues which, come to think of
> it, are mostly with HP LaserJet 4 series printers (incl. 4200, 4800, etc.)
> using PCL 6 drivers.  We've not yet tried getting clients (who are working
> with external firms) to install PCL 5e or PS drivers -- perhaps that would
> help.  In case you're wondering, the issues in question include massively
> slow printing (one page per five-six minutes), black/white inverted image
> problems, and pages with garbage characters printed before and after the
> main print job.
>
> I'll have to try using the 5e drivers the next time this comes up.  Thanks
> for the suggestion.
>
> ~Jeff
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Jason Patten
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:18 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6
> >
> >
> > I have noticed that when printing using the HP LaserJet 4 driver on the
> > Server side that if the client has a PCL6 driver, the printing is
> > EXTREMELY
> > slow, on the order of one page per minutes or sometimes slower
> than that.
> > Printing is more normal with the PCL5e driver.  This ONLY seems to occur
> > though when the client has Windows XP.  With other OS's I have not seen
> > this.  It took MONTHS to find the solution.  98% of the time though if I
> > have the user swap out to a PCL5e driver the slow printing issue
> > goes away.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joel Stolk [mailto:JStolk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:14 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6
> >
> >
> >  Just as a second opinion, we use mostly PCL 6 drivers and the
> Citrix UPD
> > and have had no issues with BSODs.  I cannot vouch for the increase in
> > traffic because we don't have much in the way of bandwidth restrictions.
> > Personally, I think that the PCL 6 drivers are much better
> > written now than
> > in the past, specifically with HP printers.
> >
> > -Joel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Jeremy Thomas
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 2:53 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Pcl 5e VS pcl 6
> >
> > PCL5e tends to be more stable and manageable than PCL6, and it
> should also
> > produce less network traffic than any other driver.
> >
> > I once saw an extremely good study of printer drivers (It's amazing what
> > people will do to justify enough work for a contract
> extension), and PCL 5
> > won on both bandwidth and stability, but not by much.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Jason Benway
> > Sent: Friday 3 September 2004 19:19
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Pcl 5e VS pcl 6
> >
> > If you had a chose on which to install on a citrix server,
> which one would
> > you chose and why? I need to add the HP LJ 1300n driver not sure
> > if I should
> > use the 5e or 6
> >
> > Thanks,jb
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