Of course... But net2display is vdi or helps vdi, right??? I think vmware is doing something with rdp and they don¹t want anyone to know. They have to be... RDP sucks as a remoting protocol for VDI. I¹m sorry but it does. There is not many people that love Vmware¹s VDM more than me but it breaks when I use it as I have to use RDP (use it over anything but a LAN and even then it sucks for anything intensive) Vmware is not dumb, they need a fix... The need to do something and net2display could be an answer but Vmware can¹t wait 2 years for it... Ideas? On 6/7/08 2:08 PM, "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I don't care what VMWare marketing spin says, EMC is against anything that > isn't ESX or VDI. > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Steve, >> >> Great question. I want to learn more myself. Everything I read about it is >> good. The big problem I've been told about it is that the big boy >> (Microsoft, Vmware, Citrix) don't want anything to do with it and that >> because of this it will not get the buyoff it needs to more of a standarized >> remoting protocol. I would be interested to know what you guys this of this >> too? Again, this is what I'm told and I can think of a few reasons Microsoft >> and Citrix would not like it but I don't know why Vmware would be against it. >> >> Thanks. This is a great topic.... A beefy remoting protocol is really >> needed... >> >> >> >> >> On 6/7/08 12:26 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >>> Rick, >>> >>> I haven't found any more detail information about Net2Display, do you have >>> any links that might show an implementation or at least the planned feature >>> set and performance characteristics? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve Greenberg >>> >>> Thin Client Computing >>> >>> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 >>> >>> Scottsdale, AZ 85266 >>> >>> (602) 432-8649 >>> >>> www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net> <www.thinclient.net >>> <http://www.thinclient.net> > >>> >>> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack >>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:21 AM >>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [THIN] Re: Pano VDI Solution >>> >>> >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> >>> >>> Panologic and also Teradici have a hardware remoting protocol that has >>> completely transparent hardware (graphics, keyboard/mouse, USB etc) >>> "redirection". This means that multimedia performance and just about >>> everything else will be as good as on a PC, at least for LAN-based thin >>> clients. The good news for hardware manufacturers is that the "back-end" >>> systems are blade PCs. >>> >>> >>> >>> The largest single drawback with a Panalogic/Teradici type solution is the >>> hardware support required at both ends, and the fact that the protocol is >>> proprietary. >>> >>> >>> >>> Remote/WAN access is still going to be a problem with stuff like latency etc >>> but that may very well be handled by the new VESA Net2Display protocol which >>> will handle LAN clients as well. If Net2Display takes off, the relevance of >>> RDP and ICA could become questionable. Since Teradici are heavily involved >>> with Net2Display, it's probably a good guess that they will soon have >>> Net2Display support in their hardware. That makes it non-proprietary and may >>> well point to the future of thin clients. >>> >>> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>>