Files have size and dates as PSE400R01W2K3053 was applied. IMA is still not starting. Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Saunders" <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:59 AM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start Good question. I don't know, but I doubt it. Just do a file comparison. Have a look at the bottom of the KB article for PSE400R01W2K3053. It'll tell you what files are being updated. Just compare the size dat and time to what you've currently got to confirm if they are actually being replaced. Maybe it's as simple as a curruption with your local host cache. Use dsmaint to recreate it. Kind regards, Jeremy Saunders Senior Technical Specialist Infrastructure Technology Services (ITS) & Cerulean Global Technology Services (GTS) IBM Australia Level 2, 1060 Hay Street West Perth WA 6005 Visit us at http://www.ibm.com/services/au/its P: +61 8 9261 8412 F: +61 8 9261 8486 M: TBA E-mail: jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx "Ivo Pastyrik" <plaka@xxxxxxxxxx > To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - 08/05/2006 05:50 IMA will not start AM Please respond to thin Is there any change to catch up output from 'cpatch' ? No, I have not Memory Optimalization turned on. Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Saunders" <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:39 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start You can create a log of the MSI install like this, but chances are, as Rick says, I'll log that it had been successful. msiexec /p "S:\CitrixPS4\Hotfixes\PSE400R01W2k3027.msp" /qb- /Lv* %SystemDrive%\PSE400R01W2k3027.log REBOOT=ReallySuppress Have you got Memory Optimization turned on? This is the biggest problem. Cheers. Kind regards, Jeremy Saunders Senior Technical Specialist Infrastructure Technology Services (ITS) & Cerulean Global Technology Services (GTS) IBM Australia Level 2, 1060 Hay Street West Perth WA 6005 Visit us at http://www.ibm.com/services/au/its P: +61 8 9261 8412 F: +61 8 9261 8486 M: TBA E-mail: jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx "Ivo Pastyrik" <plaka@xxxxxxxxxx > To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - 08/05/2006 01:35 IMA will not start AM Please respond to thin Hi Rick, thanks for information. It sounds important. I was instaling hotfix after restart and checkdisk with antivirus disabled, unfortunately with no luck. Is there some hotfix's installation log, where I can found whats going wrong ? Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mack" <Rick.Mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start Hi Ivo, The Citrix patch process is unreliable. When you get the installer patch (*.msp), it includes and runs cpatch.exe which does most of the file replacements and there are often some scripts to do registry patching etc. Cpatch won't replace busy files but the windows installer shows the hotfix as successfully installed, and the only "error" is an informational message in the event log saying the a file was busy and wasn't replaced. Since there are well documented mechanisms available for replacing busy files, that work just fine, I'd better not say what I think about cpatch. Unless you reboot the server before applying a PS3/4 hotfix or make sure that all the Citrix-related services are stopped first you have no guarantee that the hotfix will have installed properly. The hotfixes you've got are probably fine, you just need to install them after a reboot. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ivo Pastyrik Sent: Sun 7/05/2006 4:03 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start Yes, I have test server. Please send me those hotfixies to plaka@xxxxxxxxxx Thank you. Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: M <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start I have just desployed PSE400R01W2K3053 by using Installation Manager, no issues. However, im not using an Access DataStore. Have you got a test server ? I can send you: PSE400R01W2k3006 (original version of the handle fix) or PSE400R01W2k3030 (2nd update) if you want to test those. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivo Pastyrik <mailto:plaka@xxxxxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start I have these hotfixes installed: PSE400R01W2k3007 PSE400R01W2k3026 PSE400W2k3R01 Yes, there events in Application log that some files was held and installer has initiated system restart. There is also event that HotFix was sucessfully installed. After restart HotFix was visible under Add/Remove programs in Control panel, but was NOT visible in CMC. Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: M <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start What existing hotfixes have you got installed ? Anything in the event log to indicate whether all your files got replaced ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivo Pastyrik <mailto:plaka@xxxxxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start I'm using Access datastore on one server in farm. I tried dsmaint, but it did not help. Uninstalling hotfix then Chfarm and rejoining farm resolved IMA startup problem. But I want this hotfix installed, because users are facing "Invalid menu handle" problem and I hope that this will help. Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Reese <mailto:gareese@xxxxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: PSE400R01W2K3053 Issue - IMA will not start try using dsmanint to restablish your connection to the datastore. What are you using for the datastore? Greg On 5/7/06, Ivo Pastyrik < plaka@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:plaka@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Greetings to all Gurus here. I want to install PSE400R01W2K3053 hotfix, because of "Invalid menu handle". But when I restart server after aplying this hotfix IMA will not start with following series of error: ---- Event Type: Error Event Source: IMAService Event Category: None Event ID: 3609 Description: Failed to load plugin ImaPsSs.dll with error IMA_RESULT_FAILURE ---- Event Type: Error Event Source: IMAService Event Category: None Event ID: 3609 Description: Failed to load plugin ImaRuntimeSS.dll with error IMA_RESULT_FAILURE ---- Event Type: Error Event Source: IMAService Event Category: None Event ID: 3601 Description: Failed to load initial plugins with error IMA_RESULT_FAILURE --- Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7024 Description: The Independent Management Architecture service terminated with service-specific error 2147483649 (0x80000001). ---- Any idea ? I will appreciate any help. Thank you in advance. 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