[THIN] Re: Outlook Exchange Cached Mode
- From: Nick Smith <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:35:38 +0100
Management and streaming serve should run fine on the box.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Evan Mann
Sent: 26 August 2009 15:30
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook Exchange Cached Mode
Outlook with IMAP (no need for Outlook Express) is the route I am probably
going to head right now it may be perfectly viable for these few remote users.
They are very computer un-savvy and e-mail with attachments is the main goal.
I don't think the lack of the other collaborative features (shared calendar,
contacts, etc) will matter. I can force the sent items through the Sent Items
folder on the mailbox on Outlook 2007, which is a requirement.
App-V? That would have to be tested (anyone want to test for me?) If it
worked, it appears all I would really need is 1 App-V CAL for TS for every user
who this TS. Those CALs appear to be cheap, like $10/user CAL cheap. But
there's the other parts of App-V, like the management server and streaming
server. Unless all of that could be ran on the same single 2008 box, which is
also running TS. It wouldn't be a cost viable option.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Nick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:10 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook Exchange Cached Mode
Orrrr...and now I'm going to shut up...if you deploy Outlook as a virtualised
app using App-V/Softgrid, can you use it no-cached mode?
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Russell Robertson
Sent: 26 August 2009 14:59
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook Exchange Cached Mode
Actually sounds like you'd be better of with Small Business Server given the
points below. But that's going to cost you for a retail copy of SBS 2008... but
would give you full Exchange 2007, OWA, Direct Push, SharePoint Services,
remote access...
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Evan Mann
Sent: 26 August 2009 14:53
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook Exchange Cached Mode
I'm way ahead of you there. Looked at Google Apps first. He didn't like the
way Google Docs worked. Also looked at Sharepoint, didn't like that either.
At the end of the day, he is set in his ways and likes accessing his files on
his local LAN through windows. It's fast, he's done it that way for 6 years,
and he doesn't want to have to change that for himself. Changing the user is
the hardest thing.
I discussed full cloud, but he doesn't like the fact that he'd be in the cloud
and his speed of working would be effected. He also has some "big brother"
issues that I've been working on for the past 2 years. He's finally going to
agree to online backup, but it took 2 years of recommending it. Having him work
entirely in the cloud would probably never materialize.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Greg Reese
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:37 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook Exchange Cached Mode
This is exactly the type of business that Google Apps for business was designed
for. legitimate email, cloud storage. Surprised that doesn't work better.
As for cached exchange mode, I don't know of any other hacks to try. You could
slap together something with VDI but you would be introducing a level of
complexity that overshadows the benefits.
Greg
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Evan Mann
<emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I'm supporting a small home based HVAC business that has a 2008 Terminal Server
so a few field employees can connect in remotely to access a repository of
documents. They want to legitimize themselves on e-mail and stop using
yahoo/gmail/ISP e-mails. I've signed them up for a Hosted Exchange service but
ran into a problem last night. No cached exchange mode in Terminal Server due
to the disabling of support for OST files (and offline files in general)
Quick search, yes, disabled on purpose by MS. Lots of potential hacks, none of
them work. I tried a few things of my own, but no go. I know the reasons for
disabling OST, but none of them are concerns for this small business who has 3
users who use terminal server. Moving to in house e-mail is not an option.
Hosted Exchange without cached mode is simply not usable. Most e-mails contain
a minimum attachment size of 1 MB and even working through text only e-mails in
the mailbox is painfully slow. Moving e-mail in house is not a viable option.
The best I can do is setup these users for IMAP, but they lose all the
collaboration benefits. Some would consider the simply fix is to deploy
Outlook Anywhere to their local desktop, but that doesn't do much good when 99%
of their e-mailing requirements saving/attaching of company documents, only
available on the terminal server.
There is no budget to spend more money to change the way things work. So I'm
out of ideas. Does anyone know of some "inside" info to enable OST/Cached Mode
support on 2008 TS?
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