Every device has its purpose. The iPhone is great for games on the go but if you really want to play games (COD, GoW, Halo, Fallout, etc) then get an XBOX. Joe From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:28 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Oracle buys Sun Except.Apple don't get games. The one thing (Well, alright, price as well) preventing Apple form winning the domestic computers wars is that they have (relatively) few games. If you are a hardcore gamer of any sort then you are on consoles or PC. Steve jobs stood up recently and said something along the lines of 'The i-phone is the best gaming device out there'.which is true if the sort of games you play require minimal interaction, which massively limits what you can actually do. Which is why the vast bulk of i-Phone games are playable for 5 minutes of fun but no more. HE just doesn't get it. If he did, Apple would have had a games division beating the pants off Microsoft, and be actively encouraging eg MMORPGs to port to Apple instead of X-Box. Add Nintendo - who really really do get games (Even more than Sony or Microsoft), and some amazing things could happen. <Ducks, expecting head to be chopped off> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown Sent: 21 April 2009 05:24 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Oracle buys Sun now that would be cool but can't apple just turn the iPhone in to the wii? they don't need Nintendo, do they? heck, with the 3.0 release of the iPhone will come new rights for ISVs which allows them to create more detailed plug-in for the iPhone. For example, someone will be able to create a blood pressure reader and have it plug directory in to the bottom of the iPhone. OR, they could create a steering wheel, joy sticks, all sorts of stuff as now you have the ability to plug in to the device, where currently we can't do that. Imagine a box, like the old Atari where you just slap the iPhone in the box uses it but also has its own added processing and graphics power. Other than the games I don't see why they would want Nintendo. Maybe customer base but come on, Apple has EVERY one, except for the Gates and Ballmer families, as customers in some way. I think the iPhone 3.0 will really change a lot. It will be flipping cool to see the devices people make for it. I can think of a slew. The box is open with 3.0 OS and the SDK... (almost, I want background processes but then that would destroy battery life and I would love to see Apple open the app store but then they have to bend over for ATT&T, which I find funny. ATT&T should do what Apple wants vs. the other. DB Douglas A. Brown CEO and Founder Microsoft MVP, Windows Server Citrix Technology Professional DABCC, Inc. Phone: (954) 778-9558 Fax: (941) 827-9073 E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/dabcc Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/douglasabrown Web: http://www.dabcc.com From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:12 AM To: Thin Subject: [THIN] Re: Oracle buys Sun I still want to see Apple buy nintendo. The wii joins the appletv, iPhone and ds combine. Nintendo game downloads on iTunes. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2009, at 10:14 PM, "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I agree with you Steve. Oracle is one of the biggest funders and participants in the Xen open source project, and many others... I have a good friend that works there now, in the Oracle VM group, and he is constantly telling me how much they love open-source... I think this is a very interesting buy. However, I wish Microsoft would have bought them and just shut them down. I wish Gates would have spent his money (billions) on just buying up all the competition... lol... A billion here, 5 billion there... I'm a PC. LOL! DB Douglas A. Brown CEO and Founder Microsoft MVP, Windows Server Citrix Technology Professional DABCC, Inc. Phone: (954) 778-9558 Fax: (941) 827-9073 E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/dabcc Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/douglasabrown Web: http://www.dabcc.com From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:09 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Oracle buys Sun I seriously doubt Oracle will kill long standing OPEN SOURCE projects!! Steve Greenberg <image003.jpg>Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85266 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net <mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:02 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Oracle buys Sun You can kiss MySQL goodbye too. IBM might try to take over OpenOffice if possible. On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sorry here is the link to the press release http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/018363 Jim Kenzig Blog: http://www.techblink.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is so terrible in so many ways. I proclaim Java to be on its deathbed. Openoffice will die a slow death also. My Sun severs are weeping. Jim Kenzig Please excuse any typos. Sent from my iPod _____ SUBJECT TO CONTRACT