I dumped Sprint when my contract was up. Their coverage was horrible and I would drop calls constantly (not a very good when I'm trying to conduct business). Not sure about the newer Sprint phones, the one I had allowed me to only use Sprints Network (effectively turning off roaming). My Verizon service has been good so far, but I am a little annoyed that the phone does not allow me to disable incoming call if roaming. A separate ring tone fixes that tho.. But rarely, if ever, has the phone been out of network. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:50 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] OT: Sprint PCS Scammers! Well call me naive...I have 5 phones with Sprint PCS. I recently bought a new one online for my daughter. She didn't use the phone anywhere else but in my home. Which is cleary in the Sprint PCS Service area. I got my first bill for it and it had $83 of roaming charges. Huh? Apparently Sprint sends the phone from the factory set in "Automatic mode" instead of just Sprint PCS mode which means according to Sprint representatives that your phone could roam anytime EVEN IN THEIR COVERAGE area because it picks up the "strongest" signal which could be another providers. This is clearly a scam. Sprint doesn't notify you of this possibility when you buy a phone or say anything in their contracts about it. I had one of their representatives even proceed to try to explain to me how cell phones are AM and that the AM signal gets weaker at night and that my daughter might of been hiding in the closet when making the calls. (any engineer worth a pound of salt knows that AM radio stations have to turn down their transmitters in the evening because the signal gets stronger at night...what an idiot!) He also said that because of storms they may lose service. (there were no storms that night...I checked the weather and my daughter wasn't in the closet) Anyways the phone is a flip phone and the calls were incoming calls..you flip open the phone and the call is answered. You have it to your ear talking so you really don't know that you are roaming unless you look for a little R on the display. Of course you wouldn't expect to be roaming in your LOCAL COVERAGE area. Sprints take is that it could happen anywhere and anytime. Bottom line is no matter how much I argued they refused to credit me. I suspect this is a scam that they and maybe a lot of other service providers are pulling on a lot of customers. They expect them to know that their phone may roam even in their LOCAL coverage area and that they expect their customers to know that they need to change the settings on the phone when they walk out of their store or they will be riddled with roaming charges until they figure out what the little R means and how to change it to only use the service providers coverage and not allow roaming. If you have had this happen to you or you know someone who has had it happen to please have them contact me as I am going to make a list. I am seriously considering forming a class action suit because of their deception if I can conclude that this is a widespread problem. Any lawyers on the list for takers? Forward far and wide. Thanks, Jim Kenzig CEO The Kenzig Group 216-288-6644