[THIN] Re: OT - Software hosting

  • From: Jan <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:55:03 -0400

Does nobody do software hosting on this list?

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Heh heh Futurelink. I ran a website back then called WorldofASP.com it was
> before it's time in that it was a site set up to match prospective customers
> with ASProviders. I had Futurelink as one of the sponsors. All those
> providers that were in my database are pretty much gone.
>
> Sadly that is the nature of the beast. I once had a hardware manager in
> dismay tell me, "well I don't want to buy machines from this 3rd party
> company because they may go out of business like the last one. I want to go
> with Compaq." I quipped "what makes you think that Compaq is not going to be
> sold either?" He assured me that they were so big that they would be around
> a long time. Needless to say the day after we received our order of 800
> computers, Compaq was sold the next day to HP. Moral of the story, no
> company is infallable.
>
> As the song goes... it's all about the Money, forget about the price tag,
> businesses are in the business to make money, and once they have your
> payment or you have signed on the dotted line, most don't care what happens
> to you after that.  You are on your own.
>
> We had this saying in our IT department, Jesus Saves, and so do I. Backup
> your data and trust it with no one else.  Mission Critical apps need to stay
> in house. Any business that has been burned one time by it happening to them
> will tell you that.
> Anyone who sells online data storage or app delivery will turn fire engine
> red with that statement and demand the IT world has changed, but it really
> hasnt, at least for the smart companies.
> Wisdom by,
> Jim Kenzig
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Durbin, Jeff <jeff.durbin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Ten years or so ago, I worked for a company called FutureLink, which had
>> purchased most of the largest U.S. Citrix integrators in order to become
>> an Application Service Provider. This question reminds me of a project I
>> did for one of our customers who was going with the ASP model - a hosted
>> desktop in the FutureLink data center. This customer had the same
>> concern, so I configured his PC's with a dual-boot option - one for
>> FutureLink access, and the other for local desktop/network access. I
>> believe he was also replicating his data from FutureLink back to his own
>> location. I thought it was a bit paranoid at the time, but FutureLink
>> was bankrupt a month later. He must have smelled it coming; I wish I had
>> too. :)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Jan
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:39 AM
>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [THIN] OT - Software hosting
>>
>> I have a slightly off-topic question. The company I work for has
>> developed (over a period of several decades of evolution) an in-house
>> application for managing our entire line of business. It is a
>> client-server system that uses an oracle database for the back-end.
>>
>> After being asked for many years, we are now actively looking at
>> licensing to other companies in our industry that are in non-competing
>> locations. Since the software is tightly integrated into our database
>> structure, our method for doing this would be to host the application
>> and deliver it via Citrix just like we currently do for ourselves.
>>
>> The projects that are managed with our system can take from months to
>> years to complete. One question we've been asked by prospective
>> licensees is about continued access to their data should we, for
>> unforeseen reasons, cease being in business.
>>
>> It has been suggested to put the software in an escrow account.
>> However, the software is continually being refined and updated by our
>> development team. Additionally, it is useless without the back-end
>> database. Obviously that data changes daily too.
>>
>> For those of you in software licensing via a hosted solution, how do
>> you address the question of "What happens to my data if you go out of
>> business?" or "How can I get my data if you go out of business?"
>>
>> Thanks, Jan
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