One big issue was with some KVM switches the servers would not start posting unless that server was the active channel on the KVM... So much for remote administration. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Rob Beekmans [mailto:robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:05 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Scheduled demise of HP NetServers we use HP a lot, ain't seen much issues with them. With compaq I mostly have to renew all raid controllers before day one is over, after the finally run they run fine.. grx Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Lynch <mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Scheduled demise of HP NetServers LOFL! We currently have HP NetServers, and they are a complete joke. I have never seen more server related issues than HP. We have moved to Dell, and I can say that we are very pleased with the relability from Dell. Of course, I cannot say anything bad about Compaq. Don't get me started with IBM. Chris -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:05 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Scheduled demise of HP NetServers All I can say is good ridance. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Rapp [ mailto:JeffR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:JeffR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: 'Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Scheduled demise of HP NetServers Gee Steve, could you be talking about me? You know many people still love things that are bad for them, smoking, gambling, excessive drinking, HP Servers, etc. So I don't hold your comments against you. I know that one day you'll stop and say "How could I have been so blind for all these years, these Compaqs are the best!" And when you do I will welcome you with open arms ;-) Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Snyder [ mailto:steven_snyder@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:steven_snyder@xxxxxxxxx> ] > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:37 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] OT: Scheduled demise of HP NetServers > > > I know at least one of you out there is going to enjoy > reading this! :-) > > Scheduled Discontinuance Dates for NetServers and > their Compaq replacement in parenthesis > > HP Netservers TC3100 (ML350), TC4100 (ML370), LP1000r > (DL360), LP2000r (DL380) and LXr8500 (DL760) are > scheduled to be discontinued 9/1/02. > > HP NetServers LH3000 (ML370), LH6000 (DL580, DL760, > ML750) and LT6000 (DL580, DL760) are scheduled to be > discontinued 7/1/02. > > The TC2100 remains in production with hpq (of course, > the one box I think they should dump). > > All other NetServers are already discontinued. > > So the moral here is, if you want real HP server > equipment, get it now before they're gone! > > Having just setup a ML350 last week, I can say that > Compaq has greatly improved their lower-end product > (whether it's reliability has improved remains to be > seen), and their pricing scheme has dropped to more > reasonable levels. > > My only real complaints about this box - a single fan > failure can take the box down (as is also on the > TC3100); accessing some parts of the box is still a > pain (maybe compaq engineers have really petite > hands?) and StupidStart is as bad as ever (maybe at > least Navigator will replace it?). > > Conversely, Compaq has already implemented some > HP-inspired features - namely cheesy plastic front > bezels that won't close tightly, just like on HP > NetServers! And it's quite stylish, reminiscent of an > old LaSalle grill. > > So anyhoo, I'm off to brush up on IBM's server > lineup... > > Regards. > ========================== This Weeks Sponsor New Moon Canaveral iQ New Moon makes central deployment and management of server-based applications simple! Now intelligent Printing with UniDriver! See a demo at: http://www.newmoon.com/products/demo/ <http://www.newmoon.com/products/demo/>