[THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
- From: "TheThin" <TheThin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:49:20 -0500
I agree, I tell my customers to thing of Citrix servers as workstations
not servers. The only reason they are called servers is because they
are on 23.9 hours a day. That other .1 hour is of course the reboot!
I agree with everyone else that printing and profiles are the worst.
With current network performance is it really necessary for profiles to
still roam? I know of a few instances where I'd want to keep a roaming
profile, but I'd much rather the OS just hit the entire profile in it's
directory on the file server most of the time. This would prevent
issues with clearing profiles on ind. TS servers if they get corrupt,
and logons would not require the profile to copy down every time. Even
if just the ntuser.dat file was the only piece copied I'd be happier!
We redirect as much as possible out of the profile to home directories
for everything including the desktop w/ no issues over bonded gig nics.
Why can't microsoft just let us point to the profile on the file server
in the first place getting rid of all the cumbersome replication issues?
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Kosht [mailto:matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Posted At: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:40 AM
Posted To: TheThin
Conversation: [THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal
with?
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
We have 4 different farms (W2K MFXP) all rebooted nightly in a staggered
fashion. I tell our customers who balk at nightly reboots this line of
logic. Do you let your desktop Windows PC run without reboot for days
on end? Now imagine the same PC being used by 30-40 people a day would
you still not reboot frequently? This usually convinces them as
everyone has had a Windows desktop go south on them (Yes even W2K or
XP).
I know where people are coming from when they ask this though. They feel
the reboot simply masks underlying stability problems. I used to reboot
only 1/week but the lowest common denominator is the crappiest
application on the box. There is a lot of crap out there these days.
It just doesn't make sense with the poorly written apps and weekly
security patches that impact a terminal server these days not to clean
it up with a reboot after hours nightly.
>>> Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 2/16/2004 4:38:36 AM >>>
2 nt4 servers here, MF1.8, we reboot nightly! :o
tends to solve more problems and keep things smooth i find :)
Andrew
--o--
>>> ssun@xxxxxxxx 13/02/04 19:44:46 >>>
On a side note, I was wondering how many of you have a reboot schedule
enable on your Metaframe farm. What OS and the how often you reboot.=20
IF
you stagger the reboots in different parts of the farm, etc.
I've a client who absolutely refuses to schedule reboots on the farm,
They have Windows 2000 farm and firmly believe that Windows 2000 does
NOT require reboots. I believe that part of the problem is that they do
not want unattended reboots, as they are afraid servers will not come
back up.=20
Seems
kinda funky to me, but I wanted to get a feel for what the rest of the
communicty is doing.
Thanks
Spencer
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Madden [mailto:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20=20
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
Subject: [THIN] OT: What's the biggest problem you deal with?
Hello All,
Since it's Friday I thought I'd ask something that I've been wondering
for a long time.
I'm a consultant and I focus 100% on Citrix and server-based computing.
While I work with a lot of different IT departments, I've never actually
had to run my own Citrix farm day after day. (Which means I'm either
totally lucky or a total sham!)
Anyway, as Citrix administrators, what's the one thing that's the
biggest pain in the butt in running your Citrix farms? Printing? AV?
Security Patches? Profiles?
Hmm. maybe I should say "other than the users, what's the biggest pain?"
:-)
Just curious,
Brian
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