[THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.
- From: "Christopher Wilson" <christofire@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:47:19 -0500
Your post about the M$ marketing scheme reminded me of this recent post by
the artist formerly known as FakeSteveJobs.
http://realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/08/21/borg-hires-54-year-old-retired-comic-to-gain-hip-image/
Macs rock. But that Windows Mojave was looking pretty sweet ;)
On 8/22/08, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Don't let the Microsoft MVP team know that!
> Jim Kenzig
> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
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> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Well, Vista is the main reason I am now a Mac user.
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>> Joe
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>> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jan
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2008 6:51 AM
>> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to
>> send to Ballmer and friends via email.
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>> Well said Jim. I have four Vista machines in my company. That's it. I have
>> NO desire for any more.
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>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <
>> jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Here is my one sorta off topic post in a long time. JK I'd love to here
>> comments and discussion. Either here or on my blog. Am I wrong? And remember
>> this isn't a RANT this is an OPINION. OPINION: It is time for Microsoft
>> to start making nice with competing software vendors if they want to sell
>> Vista. Save your $300
>> Million!<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html>
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>> http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html
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>> This is my Opinion and does not reflect those of any of my employers. I
>> have never been a Microsoft Basher (in fact I am probably one of their
>> biggest champions over the last 25 years) But I am really fed up with the
>> hype and also the infighting between Microsoft and other competing computer
>> companies and this isn't going to sell me Vista. And since my MVP status was
>> taken away I'm not going to hold back anymore. (not that I did when I was an
>> MVP which is probably why they didn't pick me up again in the first place
>> LOL)
>>
>> NEWSFLASH TO MICROSOFT: Jerry
>> Seinfield<http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/220605/microsoft-enlists-seinfeld-in-vista-battle.html>isn't
>> going to help you sell more Vista licenses to
>> Enterprises<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/No-Enterprise-Thaw-for-Vista/>no
>> matter how much you pay him. (and it is $10 million for those who care.)
>> It is very funny to poke fun at other vendors, but I hate to tell you that
>> Apple is spot on with most of it's Mac and PC commercials when it comes to
>> the Enterprise.
>>
>> I have been trying to roll out 700 Vista machines in our enterprise since
>> last July (2007!) and at every corner I arrive at a new STOP sign that
>> prevents me from doing it. Our organization requires several plugins and
>> pieces of software from many vendors. These vendors deem their software
>> Vista compatible but in reality they are only Vista compatible if the user
>> is local and not on a domain or is an administrator.
>>
>> And some of these programs, whether you turn off UAC, tell them to always
>> run as administrator, put them in compatibility mode or whatever, still crash
>> hard<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/watch-out-with-adobe-acrobat-reader-9.html>as
>> soon as the user account is made a mandatory or roaming profile.
>>
>> Companies like
>> Adobe<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/watch-out-with-adobe-acrobat-reader-9.html>,
>> Sun, ADP, Altiris, Symantec seem not to really care whether their software
>> is fully compatible with Vista. I've had issues with every one of these
>> companies getting one of their products to work on Microsofts Darling new
>> OS.
>>
>> Countless hours of my time have been wasted attempting to circumvent
>> Vista's built in "security" just to get simple core applications (like Adobe
>> Reader
>> 9<http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/watch-out-with-adobe-acrobat-reader-9.html>)
>> to work in a domain environment. Sun only certifies the latest versions of
>> Java to work with Vista and ADP whom refuses to update their applications
>> like eTime to run properly with the latest version for example refuse to
>> play. Time keeping is a critical thing here as our employees like to get
>> paid.
>>
>> There is a wonderful open source IM application that we are going to use
>> called Spark <http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/spark/> to provide
>> support to our customers. Worked fine for local user accounts but as soon as
>> you put it into a roaming profile, bam, for some reason now you have to be
>> an administrator to run it. Same for Adobe Acrobat 9 and countless other
>> programs.
>>
>> Every program has had a different solution in trying to get it to run in
>> an enterprise environment on Vista. I really doubt that Microsoft used a
>> domain with mandatory roaming profiles to the user in it's so called Mojave
>> experiment<http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/215241/microsofts-34mojave34-ruse-going-public.html>.
>> If they did the users would not be saying how great it was.
>>
>> Dammit Microsoft! I really want Vista to work and to give it to my users.
>> I really do. I know it isn't your fault that OTHER vendors can't get their
>> software written correctly to adhere to your stringent security requirements
>> but it SHOULD be your responsibility to ENGAGE them and assist them in
>> getting it to work. These are not small companies I am talking about and yes
>> most have competing products to your offerings. But bringing on the Borg
>> attitude is not going to win you any customers and comedy is not going to
>> make it any easier for them to deploy Vista.
>>
>> Right now the Adobe problem is a project killer for us. Windows XP is
>> looking mighty fine.
>>
>> *MY ADVICE TO MICROSOFT?*
>> Save your $300 million advertising dollars and go out and use it to send a
>> couple of code gurus around to these companies and get them to help get
>> their code to work! You could spend half the money, donate the other half to
>> charity and sell 10 times more product cause it would WORK!
>>
>>
>> Jim Kenzig
>> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
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