Woah. OC12? He's used to working on 384k ports and 192k CIR. I think the information is ambiguous. You can run all kinds of things over an ATM connection. My guess is they are going to private network h is offices over ATM, maybe give him an ethernet hand off. Who knows. Frame prices have sky rocketed and the industry is quickly moving away from frame in favor of VPN or other dedicated methods. If it's a quality provider who can connect all your offices on THEIR network, and not have to hand off to someone else, then the service should be reliable. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dwaine Goings Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:45 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Frame vs ATM ATM is fast But it will cost try going with a oc12 line Matthew Shrewsbury <MShrewsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Next year our contract will be up with our current provider of frame. I have been approached by a company that provides ATM host to host or host to Internet access. They say ATM has no CIR and is cheaper as a result. We currently have 5 sites connecting back to our host site using frame relay (384 w 192CIR). From experience has anyone found ATM or Frame to be better then the other....if so why? Thanks for any feedback, Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator Dwaine D. Goings Sr. Network Administrator (MCSE, CNA, CCA, MCP+I) Go-Technologies Inc. ________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate <http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/> to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.