[THIN] Re: OT: DL360 almost humor

  • From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:38:31 -0700

There is always the DL380s... Or Dell 1650s.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:23 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: DL360 almost humor




True, 

But when you got Lives on the line, as in a hospital environment, you tend
to be in a Zero tolerance for failure mode. 

HOnestly, I gotta agree, with you on the Compaq Servers, they are very
stable, run excellent, and easy as hell to set up, and  their uptime is
almost 100% (Hardware issues only). Now it always depends on the wondering
application software you use on the server, but Win2k Server and Compaq
DL380G2, have not let me down yet. 

EZ
-----Original Message-----
From: brian.hill@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:brian.hill@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 4:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: DL360 almost humor



Hey, stuff happens.  Nothing is perfect.  Think if your work was judged the
in the same manner you are judging the DL360.  If the same standards were
used (zero tolerance for failure) then you would probably be out of a job.
Even with the bad power supplies (which are now fixed) they are still great
servers.  They are still my server of choice for the level of flexibility
they offer.  I haven't had any power supply failures once they have been
replaced.  Compared to any of the Dell, HP, or IBM servers, the Compaq
servers rock.  With exception to the power supply failures on the DL360s,
I've had zero problems with my any of my Compaq servers.  With the
redundancy that I have built in thanks to the inexpensive DL360s, the impact
from the power supply failures has been minimal.  The DL360s have still
achieve 99% uptime even with the faulty power supplies at a fraction of the
cost of big servers.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Anderson, Frank [mailto:Frank.Anderson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:09 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: DL360 almost humor



To add:

10 power supply replacements out of 12 here.

-Frank



-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:21 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: DL360 almost humor



Yep,=20

I have had 5 at my site go bad also, I think there was a previous thread =
on
this, I never trusted the Pizza boxes that much anyways, and the Compaq
Folks was in my datacenter getting serial numbers for the units that =
haven't
failed yet, to get the fix for em.=20

Word to the wise, GO WITH THE CHEAP STUFF, GET THE CHEAP RESULTS.=20

EZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Mason Dively [mailto:mdively@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:52 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: DL360 almost humor


Wow!!  That is hilarious!!  Its funny because I understand your pain--we
have about 10 of those bad boys and have had to replace the power =
supplies
on all but 1 or 2.  Compaq has a Service Advisory about these being
defective in a portion of the 360's, but the kicker is they won't =
replace
the power supply until it goes bad--so basically you have to wait until =
your
server dies!! =20

Thanks,
=20
Mason B. Dively  MCP,CCA
Amdocs CMI Windows Administration


-----Original Message-----
From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:41 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] OT: DL360 almost humor


For those that remember the threads a few weeks ago about DL360s...=20

I had purchased 3 of them almost a year ago.  They sat humming quietly =
along
in my datacenter.  I never had a problem.  Until this morning.  I came =
in to
find one down.  Tried to boot it, and it said the power supply was bad.
Thankfully I keep a spare.  Replaced it, rebooted, all was good.  As it =
was
coming up, a second one suddenly powered down.  I said "hmmm...." and =
tried
to power it back up.  Bad power supply!  I pulled one of my test 360s =
and
yanked the power supply from it, and got that one rebooting.  As it was
coming up... you guessed it, the 3rd died.  I swear, it was so funny I =
had
to laugh.  They actually died in the same order they had been activated =
in,
one right after the other.  I felt like I was on Bloopers or something!  =
The
third, sadly, is down until I can get a replacement power supply.  Gah!

-Paul


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