Do you happen to have the ftp site address handy? I've only ever been able to find the daily updates on http. Regards Angus -----Original Message----- From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 12 February 2004 13:20 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN) For as long as I can remember, Symantec has put out LiveUpdate definitions ONLY on WEDNESDAY's. This is on their website. They ONLY release a LiveUpdate version when there is a MAJOR virus outbrake, such as MyDoom, and previous viruses such as Nimda. However, EVERY DAY they put out an intelligent updater with revised Definitions as necessary. This is available via FTP. Symantec has a few sample scripts to download this, but it's just a text file and a .bat file which has FTP.EXE call the text file to run unattended. Anyone can write their own script. I don't recall the time they release it, but it is always published at the same time each day. I think Symantec should build an automatic download of the Inteligent Updater into the Corporate/Enterprise products, because these environments should be updated daily and not have to wait for the Wed update or a major outbreak, but until they do that, all you have to do is schedule the FTP download with AT on your parent server(s) and it will push down to every sub-server and client. So anyways, Symantec DOES have an update every day, you just have to schedule to get it yourself. DO NOT rely on LiveUpdate. Most admins who have used NAV CE/Enterprise over the years know about this and have know about this, and they are getting daily updated. And FWIW, SAV 8.1 Corp/Enterprise work just fine on Win2003, and have since Win2003 came out, and since 8.1 came out, which was prior to the gold release of 2003 Server. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Lynch Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:32 PM To: lynch00@xxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN) =20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 While this is true, I have found the same case. It seems as if the quality of Symantec's AV products are becoming more and more useless. I have permanently made the switch to Trend Micro AV products (which I was a big proponent of Symantec AV products). I just finished moving a friends network from SAV 8.0 CE to Trend Micro OfficeScan/ServerProtect/ScanMail, all controlled from the Trend Micro Control Manager. A very nice tool. All access via HTTP. Reporting is SO much better than SAV. Version 3.0 of TMCM is supposed to be so much better, and better reporting capabilities, and work on Windows Server 2003 (to be released Feb 16). Chris Lynch lynch00@xxxxxxx=20 - - -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lennart Koschella Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:15 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN) techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >I'm telling this just to throw the information out there. What I'm >concerned about though, is the dates on the virus defs. I scanned them=20 >on the 9th, and the virus defs were dated the 4th. Aren't there new=20 >viruses produced every day? If so, wouldn't you want a vendor that=20 >updates every day? Anyone else seen these problems with NAV? There is a LiveUpdate from 9 February, but we have the same concerns here.=20 However, Symantec offers two update mechanisms: "LiveUpdate" and "Intelligent Updater". They write on their website: "LiveUpdate definitions are updated weekly, except for major outbreaks, when definitions are updated more often [...] Intelligent Updater is updated daily during the work week." (look at http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/20020219083827 13?O penDocument&src=3Dsec_web_nam) With kind regards, Lennart Koschella System Adminstrator University Hospital Tuebingen/Germany ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. 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