[THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
- From: Minero Hector B DLVA <MineroHB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:26:38 -0500
I went to ftp.symantec.com and have the following question:
what's the difference btween symcdefsi32.exe and symcdefsi321.exe?
I have Corporate Edition version 8.0
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-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:09 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
Many thanks for that. It should save me a load of time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 12 February 2004 14:41
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
Sample defsgetter.bat:
ftp -s:c:\cescript.txt
call "%systemdrive%\symcdefsi32.exe" /q
del /q %systemdrive%\symcdefsi32.exe
And here is the cescript.txt that the .bat calls:
open ftp.symantec.com
anonymous
joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
cd
public/english_us_canada/antivirus_definitions/norton_antivirus/static
lcd C:\
bin
prompt
get symcdefsi32.exe
quit
Schedule via AT.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Angus Macdonald
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:37 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
Do you happen to have the ftp site address handy? I've only ever been
able to find the daily updates on http. Regards Angus
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 12 February 2004 13:20
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
For as long as I can remember, Symantec has put out LiveUpdate
definitions ONLY on WEDNESDAY's. This is on their website. They ONLY
release a LiveUpdate version when there is a MAJOR virus outbrake, such
as MyDoom, and previous viruses such as Nimda.
However, EVERY DAY they put out an intelligent updater with revised
Definitions as necessary. This is available via FTP. Symantec has a
few sample scripts to download this, but it's just a text file and a
.bat file which has FTP.EXE call the text file to run unattended. Anyone
can write their own script. I don't recall the time they release it,
but it is always published at the same time each day.
I think Symantec should build an automatic download of the Inteligent
Updater into the Corporate/Enterprise products, because these
environments should be updated daily and not have to wait for the Wed
update or a major outbreak, but until they do that, all you have to do
is schedule the FTP download with AT on your parent server(s) and it
will push down to every sub-server and client.
So anyways, Symantec DOES have an update every day, you just have to
schedule to get it yourself. DO NOT rely on LiveUpdate. Most admins
who have used NAV CE/Enterprise over the years know about this and have
know about this, and they are getting daily updated.
And FWIW, SAV 8.1 Corp/Enterprise work just fine on Win2003, and have
since Win2003 came out, and since 8.1 came out, which was prior to the
gold release of 2003 Server.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:32 PM
To: lynch00@xxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
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While this is true, I have found the same case. It seems as if the
quality of Symantec's AV products are becoming more and more useless. I
have permanently made the switch to Trend Micro AV products (which I was
a big proponent of Symantec AV products). I just finished moving a
friends network from SAV 8.0 CE to Trend Micro
OfficeScan/ServerProtect/ScanMail,
all controlled from the Trend Micro Control Manager. A very nice tool.
All access via HTTP. Reporting is SO much better than SAV. Version 3.0
of TMCM is supposed to be so much better, and better reporting
capabilities, and work on Windows Server 2003 (to be released Feb 16).
Chris Lynch
lynch00@xxxxxxx=3D20
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lennart Koschella
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:15 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Anti-Virus Vendors (AGAIN)
techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>I'm telling this just to throw the information out there. What I'm=20
>concerned about though, is the dates on the virus defs. I scanned=20
>them=3D20 on the 9th, and the virus defs were dated the 4th. Aren't =
there
>new=3D20 viruses produced every day? If so, wouldn't you want a vendor=20
>that=3D20 updates every day? Anyone else seen these problems with NAV?
There is a LiveUpdate from 9 February, but we have the same concerns
here.=3D20 However, Symantec offers two update mechanisms: "LiveUpdate"
and "Intelligent Updater". They write on their website: "LiveUpdate
definitions are updated weekly, except for major outbreaks, when
definitions are updated more often [...] Intelligent Updater is updated
daily during the work week." (look at
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/20020219083827
13?O
penDocument&src=3D3Dsec_web_nam)
With kind regards,
Lennart Koschella
System Adminstrator
University Hospital Tuebingen/Germany
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