[THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab

  • From: "Magnus" <magnus@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:38:22 -0500

If you do a qwinsta from the command line are the users that are logged
in showing up?

Magnus

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ruud Bransen
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:26 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab



Thx for clearing that out, Magnus. I recreated the LHC with PSRequired
set to 1 but the results are the same.

Regards,
 
Ruud Bransen
Databalk bv
www.databalk.nl
www.diskis.nl
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Magnus [mailto:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: maandag 30 december 2002 16:54
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab
> 
> 
> Actually that is incorrect.
> 
> Unless you set the PSRequired reg value to 1 it will not read from the

> data store it will read all of the info (with the exception of users) 
> from the LHC.  When you hit the refresh button the cmc(or select the
> server) will then read the user info from the data store. Users that 
> log on or log off are recorded in the Data store when the logon or log

> off event happens.
> 
> As far as writing the info from the LHC to the data store.  The LHC is

> a subset of info from the data store that gets updated during the 
> normal interval or whne the IMA service on that server receive a 
> consistency check message. I do not believe there is a way to write 
> the info from the LHC to the data store and I believe this is by 
> design
> 
> Magnus
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Ruud Bransen
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab
> 
> 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I think the issue is related to the LHC or the data store (MSSQL). The

> first time the IMA service starts, it reads the database for users and

> displays that users in the CMC (forever, until the service restarts). 
> Users that logon or off while the IMA service is running or not 
> registered in the Users Tab.
> 
> This brings up a few questions:
> 
> Are the changes registered in the LHC and written to the database when

> IMA starts (or stops)?
> 
> How can you force the LHC to be written to the data store?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ruud Bransen
> Databalk bv
> www.databalk.nl
> www.diskis.nl
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jensen, Jay [mailto:jjensen@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: maandag 30 december 2002 16:29
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab
> >
> >
> > The CMC is by default set up to refresh manually. Have you refreshed

> > the CMC display to see the new users?  (View, Refresh).
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruud Bransen [mailto:rb@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:26 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab
> >
> >
> >
> > We did that (refresh of LHC) with the same result: the users show up

> > but does not add or remove users that logon or logoff.
> >
> > The servers reboot every day, that's why we get an empty list 
> > everyday.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ruud Bransen
> > Databalk bv
> > www.databalk.nl
> > www.diskis.nl
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jensen, Jay [mailto:jjensen@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: maandag 30 december 2002 16:15
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: No (new) users in Users Tab
> > >
> > >
> > > Try deleting the Local Host Cache.  That works many times to 
> > > refresh
> 
> > > the Local Host Cache on that server to get a list of users.  You 
> > > can
> 
> > > do this while users are on the server.  Another option is a reboot

> > > of the server but that will disconnect users.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ruud Bransen [mailto:rb@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:14 AM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] No (new) users in Users Tab
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The CMC doesn't show any users in the Users Tab. After restarting 
> > > the
> > IMA
> > > service the users show up in the CMC. However,  users that logon 
> > > or
> > logoff
> > > are not added or removed from the list. I found an article about 
> > > DNS
> 
> > > and one about disabling and enabling the ICA-connector but they 
> > > both
> 
> > > didn't
> > solve
> > > the issue. We also recreated the ICA connector and rejoint the 
> > > servers
> > in
> > > the farm, both with the same result. Oh yeah: they do show up in 
> > > the
> 
> > > Terminal Server Manager. Can anyone help me out?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ruud Bransen
> > >
> > > Databalk bv
> > >
> > >  <http://www.databalk.nl> www.databalk.nl
> > >
> > > www.diskis.nl <http://www.diskis.nl>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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