[THIN] Re: No Pagefile for TS?
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:26:04 -0700
Neil,=20
Except the whole issue of both paging and virtual memory swap is =
predicated
on RAM being at a premium. RAM has been cheap and abundant for a long =
time.
If pre-emptive paging tasks are still ideal for overall system =
performance
(counter intuitive- but I can accept that it may be necessary) the =
option to
do them in RAM is really quite logical. So, if you are running as system =
and
you are quite sure that you have 1 or 2 GB (!!) of RAM free there really
ought to be a way to put the solid state response times of RAM to work =
for
"required" paging activitie.
Steve Greenberg
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Of Braebaum, Neil
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: No Pagefile for TS?
I say don't be too cautious - you are very right to raise the question, =
Ron,
and to consider this.
Without people raising the questions, the debate and the answers never =
come.
It's an interesting thought - and I think with TS being a fairly =
specific
use of the OS, and with caveats, it could be of use. Especially if using
anything that could manage and trap anything romping out of control with =
RAM
use.
It's just a shame that for quite specific use, you can't change / =
configure
the VM rationale to be more like the swapping rationale.
In general, for a general purpose OS, I think the paging rationale is =
the
only one that can likely make sense, it'd just be nice to have the =
choice,
when doing specific things and wanting the best performance.
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Oglesby
> Sent: 14 March 2004 17:44
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: No Pagefile for TS?
>=20
> All true 9again this is just an exercise in "is it possible?
> And if so beneficial?"
>=20
> I mean if a server has a severe memory leak ot process that
> is eating memory then eventually (4 Gb or 12) you will run=20
> out of working set/memory anyway. So if you have a stable=20
> system and this an exception (an odd occurrence or as Tim=20
> says something going wacky)and normally run WELL below your=20
> amount of physical RAM it would be possible to run without a=20
> page file and see some type of performance benefit. (again=20
> another "tweak")
>=20
> I mean many of us have spent HOURS if not days trying small
> little tweaks to get a tiny bit more performance, Since all=20
> of this little tweaks are cumulative. What if something like=20
> this could give you a 1-2% boost with very little risk.
>=20
> I understand what Tim says (how it doesn't feel right) since
> Windows has always relied heavily on the pagefile even when=20
> not needing it. But we are working in a brave world here and=20
> I think I just might have to pilot this change to see what's what. =20
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