[THIN] Re: New Virtual Server Discussion List: Virtualize
- From: "Jim Kenzig kenzig.com" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:28:49 -0800 (PST)
I didn't say it REQUIRES a san, I just said to reap the benefits...I would call
the vmotion capabilities almost a must have. There will always be a time when
hardware has to be taken down and the ability to move vm's in real time if you
have multiple machines running on it is a must have in my book. : )
JK
Uh, not really. The ?benefits? That really need a SAN are the VMotion
capabilities. Not to say that I don?t use a SAN in a number of ESX
implementations BUT we have done it without it to, ESX rocks GSX and VS 2005 in
performance.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
RapidApp, Chicago
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kenzig kenzig.com [mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Virtual Server Discussion List: Virtualize
There was a good article at infoworld last month with the basics.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/11/05/45FEvirtual_1.html
You need a San for the most part if you want to reap the benefits of ESX.
Here is a good one by Paul Thurrot also
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/43990/43990.html
And while this is an older article it is pretty good also.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,10403,00.asp
One cool thing about ESX that MS does not have is there is a piece you can get
that you can move live VM's over to another Server running it in real time if
you need to take the physical hardware down and never miss a beat.
Once I get the new website together... virtualize-it.com I will have all these
links in place and find all I can.
It is interesting to note a search on google of VMware versus Virtual Server
brings up posts from this list. I think we are probably some of the key people
on the web discussing it.
Jim
Dirk wrote:
I'm aware that the ESX to VS2005 comparison is not really valid but
since we are recommending ESX we are being asked to provide a written
response as to why VS2005 is not the recommendation. I was just hoping
to have something to start with.
Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
Lead Technical Analyst
(919) 765-4791
dirk.blose@xxxxxxxxxx
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There are some documents out there comparing GSX to VS2005, and
Workstation to VPC2005. You cannot compare ESX to any MS product, as
of right now.
You can contact your local VMware Partner, and they can get you that
documentation.
Chris
>
> Speaking of VM stuff, anyone know of a good comparison of
> Esx, GSX, and Virtual Server 2005? Our engineering team is > 100% behind ESX
> but certain managers want to see some kind of
> comparison and aving somethign to start with is easier than
> writing it all myself.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
> Lead Technical Analyst
> (919) 765-4791
>
>
> 8:08 AM >>>
> Hi Folks,
> I have set up a new discussion list for Virtual Server Products.
>
> This list is to discuss Virtual Server and workstation
> products like VMWare and Microsoft Virtual PC and Virtual
> Server 2005.
>
> Join on up and lets get started at:
>
> //www.freelists.org/list/virtualize
>
> I am also working on a new website called Virtualize-it.com
> that will be up in the next few days to host information and
> archives for the list.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Kenzig
> http://thin.net
> http://www.thinwiki.com
> ;
>
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