[THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?

  • From: "Rowlandson, John" <John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:07:20 +1000



I just bought 4 x 2650 dual 1.8 Xeon, 2gb ram etc etc  boxes, dell
servers are cheap as chips now, infact mine were cheaper than the US
price listed below from mark!



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Politis [mailto:bpolitis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:43 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?





I like the 2650s as well (just ordered 2).  Putting 48 1U servers in a
rack is more trouble than it's worth for cabling reasons in my opinion
on the 1650s.  I'd rather have 2Us with an extra rack and room for
growth in the servers.  Even 24  2U servers is tight, although Dell
makes some great racks also.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Guzzo [mailto:marguz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?



Well, this is what I'm putting together
PowerEdge 1650 1U:
        2 X PIII, 1.4GHz w/512K Cache
        2GB SDRAM, 133MHz, 2X1GB DIMMS
        3 Bay (1x3) Hot Plug SCSI Hard Drive Backplane
        2 X 18GB, 10K RPM Ultra 160 SCSI HDrives
        On-Board RAID 1,2 drives connected to on-board RAID
        Dual On-Board NICs
        Embedded Remote Assistant Option (ERA/O), daughterboard
        Floppy, 24X IDE CDRom =3D20
        PRICE =3D3D 5,948.80
        PRICE =3D3D 5,589.70 (without the Embedded Remote Option)

PowerEdge 2650 2U:
        2 X Xeon, 2.0GHz w/512K Cache
        2.0GB DDR, 2X1GB DIMMS
        5 Bay (1x5) Hot Plug SCSI Hard Drive Backplane
        2 X 18GB, 10K RPM, 1" Ultra 160 SCSI HDrives
        PERC3-DI, 128MB Battery Back Cache, 2 Internal CH-Embeddded RAID
        On-Board RAID 1,2 drives connected to on-board RAID
        Dual On-Board NICs
        Floppy, 24X IDE CDRom
        PRICE =3D3D 5,992
        =3D20
=3D09


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        =3D09



On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:21:42 -0600
"Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello,
>=3D20
> What about the Dell 2650's?  Yes they are 2U but they support 2 =
2.4=3D20

>Xeon processors and up to 6 Gig of 200Mhz DDR SDRAM and a Embedded=3D20 =
=20
>remote access port. (great for when you need to reboot a dead =
server=3D20

>remotely).  I belive a simular 1650 is only about $800.00 CDN less. I
know I am debating which
> server to purchase. Thoughts?  =3D20
>=3D20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: October 23, 2002 8:41 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Here ya go:
>=3D20
> PowerEdge 1650
> PowerEdge 1650,Intel Pentium III,1.4GHz w/512K Cache
> =3D3D20
>  Qty: 1  =3D3D20
>   SALE PRICE=3D3D20
> Price: $3,839.00=3D3D20
>  [save $200.00]=3D3D20
> =3D3D20
>   =3D3D20
>     Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:42:20 AM CDT =3D3D20
>     Catalog Number: 04 04 =3D3D20
> PowerEdge 1650:   PowerEdge 1650,Intel Pentium III,1.4GHz w/512K Cache
>=3D20
> Additional Processors:   Dual Processor Intel Pentium III,1.4GHz
w/512K=3D3D20
> Memory:   1GB SDRAM,133MHz,2X512MB DIMMs   1GB2D  =3D3D20
> Keyboard:   No Keyboard Option   N   [310-3281]  =3D3D20
> Monitor:   No Monitor Option   N   [320-0058]  =3D3D20
> Power Source:   AC Power Option for Dell PowerEdge 1650   ACPWR
> [310-1357]  =3D3D20
> PCI Riser:   PCI Riser,2x64bit/66MHz slots   64BPCI   [430-0288]  =3D
=3D3D20
> Second Hard Drive:   18GB 15K RPM Ultra 160 SCSI Hard Drive  =3D3D20
> First Hard Drive:   18GB 15K RPM Ultra 160 SCSI Hard Drive
Primary=3D3D20
> Controller:   PERC3-DI,128MB Battery Backed Cache,1 Int,1 Ext
Channels-
> Embedded RAID   ROMB128   [340-3605]  =3D3D20
> Diskette Drive:   1.44MB Diskette Drive   FD   [340-3612]  =3D3D20
> First Network Adapter:   Dual On-Board NICs   OBNICS   [430-8991]  =3D
=3D3D20
> CD ROM or DVD ROM:   24X IDE Internal CD ROM Drive   CD24X
[313-0317]
>=3D20
> Bezel:   Active Bezel Option for Dell PowerEdge 1650   BEZEL
> [313-0868]  =3D3D20
> Hard Drive Backplane:   3 Bay (1x3) Hot Plug SCSI Hard Drive Backplane
>=3D20
> Documentation:   Users Manual,Installation and Trouble Shooting Guide
on
> CD  =3D3D20
> Hard Drive Configuration:   On-Board RAID1,2 drives connected to
> on-board RAID   MR1   [340-3607]  =3D3D20
> =3D3D20
> =3D3D20
> =3D3D20
>    Dell PCs use genuine Microsoft(r) Windows(r) =3D3D20
>     www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell=3D3D20
> =3D3D20
>  =3D3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
> =3D3D20
> RapidApp
> Office 312.372.7188
> Mobile 312.961.2380
> email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> =3D3D20
>=3D20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Oglesby=3D3D20
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:34 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Well,
>=3D20
> Since you currently have some MF boxes running these apps I would look

> at them to see how they are doing on Proc and memory. Gives you a good

> starting point.=3D3D3D20
>=3D20
> I like duals for everything, unless I have tons (in the thousands of
> users) then MAYBE quads or Blades (more for cable and OS mgmt =
than=3D20

>anything
> else)
>=3D20
> With a Dual I go 2 Gig of RAM. If you want to start with a GIG that is

> fine but configure your memory so you still have slots available.=20
>So=3D20  if you have 4 slots and get a gig don't buy 4 256 modules. =
Then=20
>you=3D20  have to replace them all. Get 2 512's =3D20
> For drives. Go with 18 gig scsi's, you can go bigger if there =
isn't=3D20
> much of a price different.
>=3D20
> Tear it up bro.
>=3D20
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
> =3D3D3D20
> RapidApp
> Office 312.372.7188
> Mobile 312.961.2380
> email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> =3D3D3D20
>=3D20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Guzzo [mailto:marguz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] New Dell 1650 questions?
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Hello
>=3D20
> I just had a nice talk with the director of IT here. I mentioned=3D20
> (thanks
> Ron) to him the Dell 1650 series server, he jumped on it :-) Now =
he=3D20
> wants me to spec it out and recommend how many servers to buy at=3D20
> first. So my
> question(s) is this...
>=3D20
> Recommend amount of memory? 1G or more?
> Processor type? Looks like I can get PIII 1.8MHz (TWO per box)
>=3D20
>=3D20
> I will be running OfficeXP, Meditech, Acrobat Reader. Looking a=3D20
> getting 5 Dell 1650's for now.
>=3D20
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> ^^^ got Linux ^^^
> Mark Guzzo
> Sair LCA, LCP
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^^^ got Linux ^^^
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