[THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?

  • From: "Greg Reese" <GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:39:41 -0400

I suspect that the 200mhz DDR RAM will give the 2640 a bit more of a =
kick for terminal services.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:21 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?



Yeah BUT are they only 800 bucks more with the XEONs and the 6 b of ram
over a dual Pentium with 2 gb....=3D20

If so buy a truck load cause I want them.=3D20
If not then it is a measure of how much performance you get against the
dollars spent. =3D20

Don't get me wrong. XEONs are the bad boys on the block. But when
dealing with a small env with budget restrictions..... they cant always
be there.=3D20



Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
=3D20
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 312.961.2380
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
=3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: Selinger, Stephen [mailto:SSelinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:22 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?

Hello,

What about the Dell 2650's?  Yes they are 2U but they support 2 2.4 Xeon
processors and up to 6 Gig of 200Mhz DDR SDRAM and a Embedded remote
access
port. (great for when you need to reboot a dead server remotely).  I
belive
a simular 1650 is only about $800.00 CDN less. I know I am debating
which
server to purchase. Thoughts?  =3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: October 23, 2002 8:41 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?



Here ya go:

PowerEdge 1650
PowerEdge 1650,Intel Pentium III,1.4GHz w/512K Cache
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Additional Processors:   Dual Processor Intel Pentium III,1.4GHz
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Memory:   1GB SDRAM,133MHz,2X512MB DIMMs   1GB2D  =3D3D20
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Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
=3D3D20
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 312.961.2380
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
=3D3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby=3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:34 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Dell 1650 questions?


Well,

Since you currently have some MF boxes running these apps I would look
at
them to see how they are doing on Proc and memory. Gives you a good
starting
point.=3D3D3D20

I like duals for everything, unless I have tons (in the thousands of
users) then MAYBE quads or Blades (more for cable and OS mgmt than
anything
else)

With a Dual I go 2 Gig of RAM. If you want to start with a GIG that is
fine
but configure your memory so you still have slots available. So if you
have
4 slots and get a gig don't buy 4 256 modules. Then you have to replace
them
all. Get 2 512's

For drives. Go with 18 gig scsi's, you can go bigger if there isn't much
of
a price different.

Tear it up bro.

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
=3D3D3D20
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 312.961.2380
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
=3D3D3D20

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Guzzo [mailto:marguz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] New Dell 1650 questions?


Hello

I just had a nice talk with the director of IT here. I mentioned (thanks
Ron) to him the Dell 1650 series server, he jumped on it :-) Now he
wants me
to spec it out and recommend how many servers to buy at first. So my
question(s) is this...

Recommend amount of memory? 1G or more?
Processor type? Looks like I can get PIII 1.8MHz (TWO per box)


I will be running OfficeXP, Meditech, Acrobat Reader. Looking a getting
5
Dell 1650's for now.


^^^ got Linux ^^^
Mark Guzzo
Sair LCA, LCP

Citrix Administrator

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