[THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix

  • From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:09:37 -0600

Rick, recheck your stats. You can get LB now with regular server. Its
just the session directory that is only used by Enterprise.

Fun huh. Of course their load balancing blows....


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-----Original Message-----
From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:30 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix


Hi,

Windows server 2003 is going to hurt Citrix at the low end.=20

The RDP client capabilities are right up there with the ICA client, with
the exception of the high latency capabilities. Virtual cahannels, the
lot. No published apps (yet), no direct nfuse equivalent (yet) without
using an third party product (at extra cost).

Provided you buy the Server 2003 Enterprise edition (costs extra), you
can have load balancing into a farm, together with reconnection to a
disconnected session on the farm etc.

However the session directory (compare to ICA master browser) has no
redundancy (use dedicated session directory).

Will it displace Citrix in the corporate area. Probably not if Citrix
keep up their value-add.

Is it a much better platform for Metaframe? Absolutely. Per-user file
associations, application security that works, ban kernel-mode printer
drivers etc.

Regards,

Rick

Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
tel +61 7 32467704



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Snyder [mailto:steven_snyder@xxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 9:06 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix



Terminal Services in Windows Server 2003 (formerly
called .NET server, hence the source of some confusion
with the .NET web-based apps framework), will provide
a lot of functionality currently only provided by ICA
- client drive mapping, client serial port mapping,
sound mapping, 24-bit color, higher resolutions, etc.
(just review all of the currently useless options in
the WinXP RDP client), as well as supporting some
non-Windows clients.

In addition, you can load-balance terminals servers. A
really cool feature is if a session gets disconnected,
it can reconnect to the same session but on a
different server (courtesy of Session Directory).

It appears, however, that it will not have any
equivalents to all of the neat Enterprise Management
tools that you get with XPe.

So for a company not needing enterprise management
tools, ICA won't offer much advantage over RDP - which
is why Citrix has been lately putting so much emphasis
on their other value-adding products like CSG and NFue
Elite.

Here's a link to Server 2003 Terminal Services

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/terminalservices
/def
ault.mspx

HTH

> I have people here beginning to discuss .NET quite
> heavily and how we won't
> need Citrix, once we go to .NET web based apps.,
> etc.
>=20
> I have heard people talk about how Citrix will
> compliment those apps.  Any
> input?

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