[THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML status

  • From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:58:14 -0500

Thanks for the thought, I'm on 2.7 though.

-Paul

> ----------
> From:         Joe Shonk[SMTP:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Reply To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent:         Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:22 PM
> To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML
> status
> 
> 
> Sometime the XML service just stops responding if you are using the =
> stock version of MDAC for windows 2000.  2.6sp2 and 2.7 work fine.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:48 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML
> status
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, we use CSG anyway and I don't encrypt from the DMZ to the internal
> machines, so I don't NEED XML on port 80.  I'll keep playing at it.  =
> Just
> can't understand why it suddenly stopped working. =20
> 
> -Paul
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Alexander Danilychev[SMTP:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Reply To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent:       Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:07 AM
> > To:         thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:    [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML
> > status
> >=20
> >=20
> > Disable IIS (including IISAdmin) and register Citrix XML as a service: =
> 
> > Ctxxmlss.exe /u80 (the same port 80 as with IIS) or assign a different
> > port=20
> > to IIS for the time of the test - 8080.
> > If it works, you have IIS permission issue. If you do not use IIS and =
> SSL=20
> > encryption is not an issue - kill IIS and use XML as a real service.
> > For SSL encrypted XML I like IIS though.
> >=20
> > ALEX
> >=20
> >=20
> > >From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML =
> 
> > >status
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:31:50 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes, I fully understand.  It is installed as a dll within the IIS =
> scope.
> > >I've tried unloading it from memory and reloading, etc;  Nothing is=20
> > >working.
> > >Apps from that one server always display the ticketing error.  It is, =
> by=20
> > >the
> > >way, my data collector box.
> > >
> > >-Paul
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:   Alexander Danilychev[SMTP:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Reply To:       thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent:   Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:10 PM
> > > > To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Cc:     magnus@xxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject:        [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking
> the =
> XML
> > > > status
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, "port sharing" is a blunder (as far as terminology goes) on =
> the
> > part
> > > > of
> > > > Citrix marketing (? since documentation is quite good) - Citrix =
> XML
> > DLL
> > > > does
> > > > not "share" port with IIS but runs in a scope of IIS and thus =
> utilizes
> >=20
> > >IIS
> > > >
> > > > communication mechanism together with the port.
> > > >
> > > > There are two ways to run "XML service":
> > > > =
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
> D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > As an ACTUAL SERVICE with its own listener - dedicated port which =
> CAN=20
> > >NOT
> > > > BE
> > > > SHARED is required. If not registered during installation check
> > > > %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32 directory and run: Ctxxmlss.exe /uX, where X =
> is
> > a
> > > > port
> > > > number. You can also specify "keep alive" parameter: /kY, where Y =
> is 9
> >=20
> > >sec
> > > >
> > > > by default. Any changes will require reboot.
> > > > =
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
> D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > > If you have IIS and would like to secure Citrix XML traffic, it is =
> 
> > >easier
> > > > to
> > > > use XML not as a service but as a DLL in IIS scope and use SSL=20
> > >encryption
> > > > through IIS. Although most people install XML as DLL by accident, =
> it
> > is
> > > > much
> > > > easier to use it this way versus paring XML service with Citrix =
> Secure
> > > > Relay
> > > > (not to be mistaken with CSG).
> > > >
> > > > So, if IIS is in the mix Citrix XML is not actually a service - =
> IIS
> > > > replaces
> > > > CTXXMLSS.EXE as the network listener. Check default folder
> > > > [Inetpub\scripts]. You should find CTXMLS.TXT, CLM.DLL and =
> WPNBR.DLL.
> > > > These
> > > > DLLs are responsible for communication with IMA or PN service
> > > > To unregister the original XML service and switch to IIS scope =
> stop
> > the
> > > > service and run "ctxxmlss.exe /u"
> > > > =
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
> D=
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3
> D=
> 
> > > >
> > > > ALEX
> > > >
> > > > >From: Jim Kenzig <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the =
> XML
> > > > >status
> > > > >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:57:43 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >The XML service can share port 80 with IIS see:
> > > > >http://thethin.net/faqs2.cfm?id=3D431&category=3D3&sortby=3Ddate
> > > > >JK
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > > >Behalf Of Stansel, Paul
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:04 PM
> > > > >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > >Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the =
> XML
> > > > >status
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Well... here's the thing.  They all run IIS, because Smarstart
> > installs
> > > > it
> > > > >by default and I neglected to disable it before installing XP.  =
> My
> > > > >understanding is that every server has to use the SAME port for =
> XML,
> > > > which
> > > > >is why I've hesitated changing it.
> > > > >
> > > > >-Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From:       Magnus[SMTP:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Reply To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Sent:       Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:59 PM
> > > > > > To:         thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject:    [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking
> > the=20
> > >XML
> > > > > > status
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