[THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML status

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:22:22 -0800

Sometime the XML service just stops responding if you are using the =
stock version of MDAC for windows 2000.  2.6sp2 and 2.7 work fine.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:48 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML
status



Yeah, we use CSG anyway and I don't encrypt from the DMZ to the internal
machines, so I don't NEED XML on port 80.  I'll keep playing at it.  =
Just
can't understand why it suddenly stopped working. =20

-Paul

> ----------
> From:         Alexander Danilychev[SMTP:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Reply To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent:         Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:07 AM
> To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML
> status
>=20
>=20
> Disable IIS (including IISAdmin) and register Citrix XML as a service: =

> Ctxxmlss.exe /u80 (the same port 80 as with IIS) or assign a different
> port=20
> to IIS for the time of the test - 8080.
> If it works, you have IIS permission issue. If you do not use IIS and =
SSL=20
> encryption is not an issue - kill IIS and use XML as a real service.
> For SSL encrypted XML I like IIS though.
>=20
> ALEX
>=20
>=20
> >From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the XML =

> >status
> >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:31:50 -0500
> >
> >
> >Yes, I fully understand.  It is installed as a dll within the IIS =
scope.
> >I've tried unloading it from memory and reloading, etc;  Nothing is=20
> >working.
> >Apps from that one server always display the ticketing error.  It is, =
by=20
> >the
> >way, my data collector box.
> >
> >-Paul
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:     Alexander Danilychev[SMTP:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Reply To:         thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent:     Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:10 PM
> > > To:       thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Cc:       magnus@xxxxxxxx
> > > Subject:  [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the =
XML
> > > status
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, "port sharing" is a blunder (as far as terminology goes) on =
the
> part
> > > of
> > > Citrix marketing (? since documentation is quite good) - Citrix =
XML
> DLL
> > > does
> > > not "share" port with IIS but runs in a scope of IIS and thus =
utilizes
>=20
> >IIS
> > >
> > > communication mechanism together with the port.
> > >
> > > There are two ways to run "XML service":
> > > =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > As an ACTUAL SERVICE with its own listener - dedicated port which =
CAN=20
> >NOT
> > > BE
> > > SHARED is required. If not registered during installation check
> > > %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32 directory and run: Ctxxmlss.exe /uX, where X =
is
> a
> > > port
> > > number. You can also specify "keep alive" parameter: /kY, where Y =
is 9
>=20
> >sec
> > >
> > > by default. Any changes will require reboot.
> > > =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > > If you have IIS and would like to secure Citrix XML traffic, it is =

> >easier
> > > to
> > > use XML not as a service but as a DLL in IIS scope and use SSL=20
> >encryption
> > > through IIS. Although most people install XML as DLL by accident, =
it
> is
> > > much
> > > easier to use it this way versus paring XML service with Citrix =
Secure
> > > Relay
> > > (not to be mistaken with CSG).
> > >
> > > So, if IIS is in the mix Citrix XML is not actually a service - =
IIS
> > > replaces
> > > CTXXMLSS.EXE as the network listener. Check default folder
> > > [Inetpub\scripts]. You should find CTXMLS.TXT, CLM.DLL and =
WPNBR.DLL.
> > > These
> > > DLLs are responsible for communication with IMA or PN service
> > > To unregister the original XML service and switch to IIS scope =
stop
> the
> > > service and run "ctxxmlss.exe /u"
> > > =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

> > >
> > > ALEX
> > >
> > > >From: Jim Kenzig <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the =
XML
> > > >status
> > > >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:57:43 -0500
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The XML service can share port 80 with IIS see:
> > > >http://thethin.net/faqs2.cfm?id=3D431&category=3D3&sortby=3Ddate
> > > >JK
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > >Behalf Of Stansel, Paul
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:04 PM
> > > >To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > >Subject: [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking the =
XML
> > > >status
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Well... here's the thing.  They all run IIS, because Smarstart
> installs
> > > it
> > > >by default and I neglected to disable it before installing XP.  =
My
> > > >understanding is that every server has to use the SAME port for =
XML,
> > > which
> > > >is why I've hesitated changing it.
> > > >
> > > >-Paul
> > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From:         Magnus[SMTP:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Reply To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent:         Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:59 PM
> > > > > To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject:      [THIN] Re: My stupid question of the day... checking
> the=20
> >XML
> > > > > status
> > > > >
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