[THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

  • From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:36:22 -0500

Really at reboot IMA is most dependent on seeing the DS. It will still work
but more often has problems starting than if the DS server is up. Earlier
FRs had problems with this. Newer FRs (like FR3) recover better from it. 

Remember at Boot IMA does a consistency check on the LHC. If the DS is not
there it cant do it. Meaning the LHC may or may not be right. Now it has to
wait and keep re-trying the IMA connection. Sometimes it works sometimes it
doesn't.  

So they were right and wrong.

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
 
RapidApp, Chicago
Mobile 815 325-7618
Office 312 372-7188
e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Brian Rota
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:58 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

SO if I do reboot them at the exact same time it really should not be an
issue and the competing vendor is blowing smoke

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:56 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

Yes they will. They will poll at the DCN polling frequency (every like
10 or
30 minutes I think) to re-establish connection

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
=20
RapidApp, Chicago
Mobile 815 325-7618
Office 312 372-7188
e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Brian Rota
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:54 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

If I reboot only the ds server will the other server find the dstore
again without being rebooted?

Thanks
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:52 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

Ahh so the DS is on a Citrix box. In that case the others just need
enough
time to ensure that the IMA service is started on the ACCESS DB =
host.=3D20

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
=3D20
RapidApp, Chicago
Mobile 815 325-7618
Office 312 372-7188
e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
=3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Brian Rota
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:47 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

It is actually give a few minutes between them I reboot the dstore then
the others

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 12:44 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

It may only cause issue If one of the three contain the Datastore. And
that
one isn't started first.=3D3D20

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
=3D3D20
RapidApp, Chicago
Mobile 815 325-7618
Office 312 372-7188
e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
=3D3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Brian Madden
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:41 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

Just out of curiosity, why did the customer spend the money on XPe for
only 3 servers? Why not by XPa?

Brian

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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Madden
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:36 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

3 servers? Doesn't matter.

If you had a lot of servers, you might want to space them out. How far?
Make sure the IMA service is fully started before booting the next
group. But I wouldn't worry about this unless you were rebooting like 20
at a time.

Brian

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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Rota
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Multiple Server Reboot Schedule.

I have a client that has a 3 XPe Servers I would like to setup the
autoreboot feature. Does anyone have any opinion  on how far apart to
space the daily reboot or is it a good idea to boot them at the same
time.

Thanks
Brian
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