[THIN] Re: Mode
- From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:04:16 +0000
No problemo
> Yes, but you did ask why more people aren't doing this and now you know why
> :).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:27 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode
>
>
> Whatever the answer is Frank, I'm not going to debate the legality of it.
> That
> was not my point.
>
> My point was that someone said you it wasn't possible and I just saw a guy
> do
> just that. Whether it's legal or not, different issue.
> > Read again, not only are you illegal as far as MS is concerned, you will
> > find that you are illegal with most of the applications you are running.
> > Most desktop applications, as well as Exchange server cals and NT/2000
> > server calls are counted based on the number of devices used. In your
> case,
> > if you have 60 devices displaying Windows 2000 TS, you need 60 TS CALS, 60
> > server calls and 60 licenses for the applications. Whatever trick you use
> > to hide that is irrelevant. You are still illegal.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:06 PM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode
> >
> >
> > Microsoft doesn't say it's illegal unless you are in app mode. They say in
>
> > admin mode you are limited to 2 concurrent RDP sessions. If you are using
> > ICA,
> > you're not using and RDP connection.
> > > You may be able to get this to work if you use application mode first,
> > > install Citrix, then switch back to admin mode. As far as why more
> people
> > > aren't doing it, its illegal.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matt McKeehan [mailto:matt.mckeehan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:49 PM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode
> > >
> > >
> > > That will not work in windows 2000. Citrix need application mode in
> order
> > > to publish applications. To users. In addition each client will need a
> > tcal
> > > and scal and citrix cal to connect. You would only receive a temp tcal
> for
> > > 90 days if no tcals license server is found. It just won't work.....
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:59 PM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode
> > >
> > > You can. I know someone doing just that. They installed W2K TS in remote
> > > admin
> > > mode then MF 1.8 over the top. Purchased Citrix license for all of their
> > > client
> > > connections. They have no TS licensing server because in remote admin
> > mode,
> > > it
> > > isn't needed. Works fine, every client with an ICA connection gets in.
> > Only
> > > limitation is that only 2 RDP sessions can connect.
> > >
> > > My question was one of, why aren't more people doing this? what are the
> > > drawbacks? If a company is going to use ICA connections anyway, they
> have
> > to
> > >
> > > buy the MF licenses for them. Why buy both ICA and TS licenses?
> > > > I'm even wondering if you can install citrix om a remote admin
> > > > server...don't think so.
> > > > I get your point....it's a intresting thought but as mentioned above,
> I
> > > > don't think you can install citrix on a Remote admin server.
> > > >
> > > > Grx
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Namens
> > > > bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > Verzonden: donderdag 19 juni 2003 23:22
> > > > Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: Mode
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but if you're users are using ICA to connect, you're not limited
> to
> > > > just 2
> > > > connections.
> > > > > No others as far as I can think off....ain't it enough?...works only
>
> > > > > if = you have two concurrent users.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Namens bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Verzonden: donderdag 19 juni 2003 23:10
> > > > > Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: Mode
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Drawbacks of remote admin, other than the fact that there can only
> be
> > > > > 2 = RDP=20 connections?
> > > > > > application
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [THIN] Mode
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > What is the installation mode of choice if using Citrix and all
> > > > > >ICA=20 clients,=3D20 Remote Admin mode or Application mode?
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