[THIN] Re: Microsoft/Softrcity?
- From: "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:33:00 -0400
Tim,
I was hoping you would comment. I'm also glad you have a vested
interest.... I think that is great!!!
OK, I agree with you on all your points. I also think this has
NOTHING to do with Citrix and has everything to do with Altiris SVS.
Microsoft hates Altiris and wants them out of the picture as SVS is
getting a lot of airplay and they are also Microsoft's biggest
competitor in the manageably space. The other great benefits of
Softricity, such as TS is just a side benefit to Microsoft.
The other thing that is interesting is, Whale... Add Whale with TS07 and
Softricity and you have a nice solution.. Not the best but it is a
start.
I also 100% agree that and have said it for awhile now, Microsoft should
add the server side of SoftGrid to Longhorn and the client part to
Vista, give it away as a feature, like they are doing with Apptimum, and
that would be reason enough to upgrade. Heck, Microsoft could pay one
billion for it, which they never would, and still make a profit due to
upgrade sales of Vista and Longhorn.
No matter what happens. It is just fun to watch...
Oh, again, I hope you become a millionaire off this too Tim.
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Mangan
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:13 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft/Softrcity?
I have long felt that Microsoft should buy the company, or if not them
Citrix, or - believe it or not - Cisco should. (VMware/EMC has some
appeal also). Current Softricity Customers might be better served in
the short term with a buyer other than Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't buy
a company like Softricity for the market and customers, but for the
technology. So, if Microsoft buys, SoftGrid as we know it would
possibly become subsumed (in pieces) into other things. In the long
run, however, we all gain with this technology put right into the OS.
There are several avenues of possible interest at Microsoft (SMS, VT,
and even app migration). But Microsoft tends to buy for a single reason
(it seems to be in the nature of the VP structure) and may not be able
to exploit on all fronts.
That last option, app migration, is one that is not well understood so I
will talk about it more here. It helps Microsoft move customers from
older OSs to newer ones - something that helps the bottom line in 07 -
09 and on. The purchase of Aptimium was clearly in that space - they
were bought to help migrate desktop customers to Vista, although more
from a "identifying the stuff to move over" basis. With the Softricity
virtualization, Microsoft could eliminate the current "shim" method of
application compatibility which really s**cks from Microsoft's
perspective (Microsoft ends up manually figuring out what shims to use).
Eventually, insiders at Microsoft have hinted, they want to move from
massive OS upgrades, to making the OS more modular. App virtualization
techniques could also be used to perform OS component virtualization,
allowing Microsoft to update a portion of the OS and still provide
compatibility to applications that had dependencies on the old
component.
Or maybe they will surprise us all and it will be Ray Ozzie who brings
them in for something "Live"! It's fun to speculate.
Disclaimer: I don't have any inside info on this as it has been a long
while since I worked at Softricity, and certainly nobody there is dumb
enough to talk about any potentially pending deal. That said, I do have
a vested interest in the outcome.
tim
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kerr
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Doug,
We do not comment on rumors or speculation. I really don't know
anything more than you do. :) I know you'll want to know more. You
need to contact David Greschler.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas A. Brown <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:39 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Jim, like this?
Sources: Microsoft In Talks To Buy Softricity
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=1
88100194
I knew it... I knew it... I knew it... I've been saying this
for awhile now and I just new it... It only makes sense...
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kerr
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Very interesting Doug. I'll bet things will continue to get
interesting. We will see.
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas A. Brown <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: [THIN] Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
A bit off subject but not really....
Did you guys see that Microsoft just acquired a SSL VPN
company??? Weird, hardware... but it is a Windows based VPN... unlike
the CAG that is Linux. To learn more check this out:
http://www.dabcc.com/dabcc/webapplication/aspx/dabcc.content.aspx?intPKT
ext=1921&intPKChannel=13
What do you think?? I think this is going to be very
interesting for Citrix as they are going to compete with Microsoft in
the SSL VPN (CAG) and the app deploy (Tarpon) markets...
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
I don't recall the license port, but it is the standard
one and is in the documentation. When you enable AAC mode the CAG's no
longer require an explicit license entry, the AAC takes that over as
well as most other functions. You can secure the communication between
CAG and AAC with SSL port 443 or just 80 and 9005 for management.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Steve Greenberg
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Thanks Steve.. I didn't know that the Presentation
Server license Server can be used to license CAGs.
What ports is it communicating to the CAGs: is it citrix
port? Can it be changed to 443?
If we think to add AAC later, can we continue using a
Presentation License Server or we need to move it to the AAC license
Server?
Thanks again
Larisa
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
With CAG 4.2 you can actually use the same
Citrix license server you use for Presentation Server if you want to. In
this case, it is the standard netbios name of the server, i.e. just the
machine name (you can type hostname at the command line to see this)
Alternately, you can upload the license file
into the CAG box itself. In that case you use the value entered is in
the filed called "FQDN" on the network setup screen. When doing this the
licenses, and the cert by the way, are included in the backup file so be
sure to save off the config, this could save you a lot of work if you
ever have a hardware failure or have to rebuild the boxes.
If you already have a Citrix licensing server I
recommend using it when you have more than one CAG.
Also note that the when you fulfill your license
file from www.mycitrix.com <http://www.mycitrix.com/> you do have to
provide the license server hostname. However, these licenses can be
returned and reallocated to a different hostname if needed.
Regards,
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:23 PM
To: steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC
bits
Steve,
Can you answer this quick question, for
me please.
We just received 2 new CAGs and I need
to set them up as quickly as possible.
I am fairily new to Citrix and didn't
work with the CAGs yet. ( I've impelmented the software version of CSG
in our env.))
The documenation on CAG is pretty
detailed. The question I have is about the licensing.
As I understand, once you download it
with the wrong host name -its unpossible to change it. ???
I am in the process of downloading the
CAG licenses and need to enter the host name.
What do I use? Is it the URL (common
name) that is assigned to our external DNS? like hostname.insurity.com?
I don't see any other host names that is
being assigned to the CAGs.
Thanks in advance.
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From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway /
AAC bits
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:10 +0000
Mind expanding upon the enterprise
deployment components ?
Are you doubling things up for failover
? Seperate AAC components ?
Using Netscaler ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Greenberg
<mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway /
AAC bits
Great timing, right in the middle of an
Enterprise deployment and seeing some of these issues!
thanks
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
<http://www.thinclient.net/>
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:15 AM
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] New Access Gateway / AAC
bits
4.2.2 released
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX108902
New AAC Update
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX109402
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