[THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
- From: "Douglas A. Brown" <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:40:54 -0400
0 for 2 is all I have to say... Citrix could have bought VMware but
choose to pass.. I heard they could have done it for under 300 mil
too... Bad choice #1
I heard Citrix could have bought Softricity but choose to do it
themselves so they could hurt SoftGrid and force Softricity to sale for
a lower price. Bad choice #2
In stead we have Password Manager and MSAM... I think the CAG and
Netscaller were nice buys but take the money they spent on them and buy
the others and you have.. well, if Citrix did not miss this boat then we
would be saying, Microsoft who?
The SMS integration is VERY tight. They have two solutions, 1) that
uses 100% of SMS to manage and deploy SoftGrid packages and 2) one that
still leverages the steaming capabilities in SoftGrid. Both are very
tight and pretty much just part of the product. A lot like RES.
RES, now that is a killer company... a killer product. Microsoft
needs to buy them too. Add it to their products, Vista and Longhorn TS
and wow... but I don't think they would do that as they love the GPOs
to much..
Anyhoo... 0 for 2....
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Grecsek
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:16 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Penny smart, pound foolish...that's how I'd describe the way Citrix has
been run as an organization the past few years. I knew they had an
opportunity to buy Softricity and choosing to go it on their own just
isn't/wasn't smart...
If M$ does end up buying Softricity I'll be very curious to see how that
changes the pricing and where/how M$ tries to incorporate the technology
into their overall product lines. Has anyone had any experience with the
integration between SMS and Softricity? How does it compare to some of
the other tools that are starting to integrate with Softricity - RES?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Oh man, I sort of feel for them... they are 0 for 2 on the good
acquisitions. I mean, I heard that Citrix could have bought VMware for
under 300 million and also had the chance to buy Softricity but choose
to try to copy their technology and just might end up with egg of their
face. It ought to be interesting, as I like to say...
Just think what might have been if Citrix would have bought both of
them... and they had the money, heck, they spent the money of small
companies that have panned out but not like VMware did for EMC or what I
feel Softricity will do for Microsoft...
Crazy news....
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andrew Wood
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:41 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
I wonder if Citrix are...oo whats the business accounting term for
it.... ah thats it ...shitting it ... right now?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: 19 May 2006 02:40
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Jim, like this?
Sources: Microsoft In Talks To Buy Softricity
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=1
88100194
I knew it... I knew it... I knew it... I've been saying this for awhile
now and I just new it... It only makes sense...
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kerr
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Very interesting Doug. I'll bet things will continue to get
interesting. We will see.
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas A. Brown <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: [THIN] Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
A bit off subject but not really....
Did you guys see that Microsoft just acquired a SSL VPN
company??? Weird, hardware... but it is a Windows based VPN... unlike
the CAG that is Linux. To learn more check this out:
http://www.dabcc.com/dabcc/webapplication/aspx/dabcc.content.aspx?intPKT
ext=1921&intPKChannel=13
What do you think?? I think this is going to be very
interesting for Citrix as they are going to compete with Microsoft in
the SSL VPN (CAG) and the app deploy (Tarpon) markets...
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Web: http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/>
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
I don't recall the license port, but it is the standard one and
is in the documentation. When you enable AAC mode the CAG's no longer
require an explicit license entry, the AAC takes that over as well as
most other functions. You can secure the communication between CAG and
AAC with SSL port 443 or just 80 and 9005 for management.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Steve Greenberg
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Thanks Steve.. I didn't know that the Presentation Server
license Server can be used to license CAGs.
What ports is it communicating to the CAGs: is it citrix port?
Can it be changed to 443?
If we think to add AAC later, can we continue using a
Presentation License Server or we need to move it to the AAC license
Server?
Thanks again
Larisa
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
With CAG 4.2 you can actually use the same Citrix
license server you use for Presentation Server if you want to. In this
case, it is the standard netbios name of the server, i.e. just the
machine name (you can type hostname at the command line to see this)
Alternately, you can upload the license file into the
CAG box itself. In that case you use the value entered is in the filed
called "FQDN" on the network setup screen. When doing this the licenses,
and the cert by the way, are included in the backup file so be sure to
save off the config, this could save you a lot of work if you ever have
a hardware failure or have to rebuild the boxes.
If you already have a Citrix licensing server I
recommend using it when you have more than one CAG.
Also note that the when you fulfill your license file
from www.mycitrix.com <http://www.mycitrix.com/> you do have to provide
the license server hostname. However, these licenses can be returned and
reallocated to a different hostname if needed.
Regards,
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:23 PM
To: steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Steve,
Can you answer this quick question, for me
please.
We just received 2 new CAGs and I need to set
them up as quickly as possible.
I am fairily new to Citrix and didn't work with
the CAGs yet. ( I've impelmented the software version of CSG in our
env.))
The documenation on CAG is pretty detailed. The
question I have is about the licensing.
As I understand, once you download it with the
wrong host name -its unpossible to change it. ???
I am in the process of downloading the CAG
licenses and need to enter the host name.
What do I use? Is it the URL (common name) that
is assigned to our external DNS? like hostname.insurity.com?
I don't see any other host names that is being
assigned to the CAGs.
Thanks in advance.
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC
bits
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:10 +0000
Mind expanding upon the enterprise
deployment components ?
Are you doubling things up for failover
? Seperate AAC components ?
Using Netscaler ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Greenberg
<mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway /
AAC bits
Great timing, right in the middle of an
Enterprise deployment and seeing some of these issues!
thanks
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
<http://www.thinclient.net/>
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
________________________________
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:15 AM
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] New Access Gateway / AAC
bits
4.2.2 released
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX108902
New AAC Update
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX109402
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