[THIN] Re: Microsoft Ad
- From: "Hamilton, Ronnie" <ronnie.hamilton@xxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:17:19 +0100
sorry to jump in on this thread..
..but I have been testing Vista for a bit now and I have seen many of
the same issues but I having an issue I wonder did anyone come across.
Basically our profile desktop is redirected to a file share. and when
users are logging in first thing in the morning our Vista PC tent to
lock up with the blue circle and then all of a sudden all the icons on
the redirected desktop either completely disappear or they appear greyed
out with an x on them.
If only greyed out the icons are still usable if they disappear the user
must log out and back in again.
I have tried running process monitor and checked event logs etc and can
get no explanation for this.
The user can generally select any of the other apps they have open and
use them but fire fox or IE is greyed out.
I have 250 Vista PC's to roll out starting next month and am getting no
were with this issue.
thanks
Ronnie
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: 05 September 2008 19:06
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft Ad
Even with out the third party stuff Vista could be better... A stock
install of Vista SP1 chews up 533 megs of memory when first started. XP
SP3 takes 82 megs. That's 6.5x the memory. Connecting to CIFS/SMB
shares on a Windows 2003 or XP workstation is painfully slow and many
times error out. From a usability stand point. I despise and hate the
new start menu and Explorer. When I cursor through folders it doesn't
automatically show the content of the folder! Breadcrumb browsing is
very annoy. I much, much prefer the XP style explorer. I'll even
settle for something like Mac's Finder. The only good thing about the
new Explorer in Vista is the ability to create folder shortcuts in the
left-pane.
I had 2 gigs RAM in my laptop and Vista would constantly run out of
memory. And this was with the Aero interface and Super-fetch turned
off. The only open was Outlook 2007.
Here is an excerpt from an unpublished article I wrote about Vista. The
irony is rest of the article discusses why I didn't choose Linux or Mac
but 4 months later I ended up buying a MacBook Pro w/ Fusion and Windows
XP. I only use XP for XenCenter and Outlook (as there in no Mac
version, Entourage is not quite the same)
The Ultimate Vista Upgrade
Looking to increase performance, usability, stability and application
compatibility on your Windows Vista system? Well, Microsoft released
Windows Vista Service Pack 1 last week. No, I'm not recommending SP1.
I've got a solution that is much better. What if I told you that there
is an Operating System out there that performs so much fast than Vista.
One that is easy to use, rock solid stable and works with 100% of your
applications? What if I said you could even use your existing hardware?
Is it a Mac? Nope.
Is it Linux? Nope.
I've been running this Vista Upgrade on my laptop for 3 months now and I
have to say is it is amazing! My laptop is so much faster, stable and
easier to use than ever before!
So what is this new and exciting Operating System? Microsoft released a
relatively unknown OS many years back called Microsoft Windows XP SP2.
Here is my story.
Back in January 2007, I upgraded my laptop (Dell Inspiron E1705, T7400
Core2Duo, 2GB of Ram, 7200 RPM drive) running Windows XP Pro to
Microsoft Vista Ultimate. Since then, I have had nothing but problems
with the thing.
Issues encountered:
The system was really slow, pause and frequent display
"Not Responding" in the title bar of applications
The system would do what it pleased and constantly
kicking off some type of system scan or defrag. The poor hard-drive was
constantly chattering
The system locked up occasionally
Wireless would not always reconnect when coming out of
standby mode
Moving from one Wireless AP to a different Wireless AP
was not always seamless
Copying files takes 4 to 5 times longer to complete
Consistent issues connecting to CIFS shares
Consistent issues copying files to a CIFS share
Consistent issues opening files on a CIFS share
(sometimes, just basic .txt files would not open properly)
System would frequently run out of memory with only 1
application open (the system has 2 GB of ram)
The UAC is very, very annoying. Immediately turn that
off
Explorer folder views do not save properly
The new Start Menu is hard to navigate
System settings are new and hidden places. I've wasted
countly hours searching for settings.
The Explorer windows size opens up way too small. I
always have to resize it
A lot of the application I use no longer worked
Windows Backup would not connect to a WinXP share
Windows Backup would not let me pick and choose what
files to backup
From what I've been hearing about Vista SP1, things are not much better.
What am I losing by upgrading to XP? Not much, but here is a list:
Security? What good is it if it's really annoying,
slows down the system, and decreased the reliability of the system? I'd
rather have speed and stability. For browsing the internet, I prefer
Firefox anyways. A simple Google search reveals there are quite a few
articles that suggest that Vista is not as secure as Microsoft lets on.
The new Aero interface. Whoop dee doo! So the title
bars are not translucent or the windows fad in and out. Microsoft touts
the 3d tab flip as a big feature but I never found myself using it.
After a while, I ended up turning off the Aero interface and changed the
Start Menu to classic mode in an attempt to stabilize the system and
reduce memory consumption. Nothing gained, nothing lost.
Superfetch. Not sure where to begin here. I turned
this off while trying to troubleshoot issues with memory consumption and
I did not notice a performance decrease.
Folder shortcuts in Explorer. If anything, this might
be one feature I miss the most.
What did I gain?
Speed! The system is noticeably faster and more
responsive. And Service Pack 3 promises to be even faster.
Stability! I haven't had the system crash/lockup yet
My Hard Drive stopped chattering
My wireless connections work so much better
My old applications work again
I'm only using 565 megs (out of 2 GB) with the following
application opened: Outlook, Word, iTunes, Firefox and Notepad
Coping files to/from a CIFS share is so much faster and
trouble free
I can open simple text base files without incident
My system setting are where I expect them to be (No more
2 hour ventures to find where a new settings is hiding)
I can use NTBACKUP again!
Joe
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft Ad
Seinfied only got 10 million. Remember my earlier post. It isn't
Microsoft's fault, Vista works great. It is 3rd party vendors who can't
seem to writer their software properly to work on it. Microsoft needs
to spend that money to engage these vendors and teach them how to write
their software to work on Vista. And the world would be a better place.
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So this is what Microsoft came up with for their $300 million campaign
starring Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld. I kind of wished they would
have spend the money optimizing and fixing Vista.
http://gizmodo.com/5045703/the-first-bill-gates-%252B-jerry-seinfeld-mic
rosoft-ad-makes-no-sense
Joe
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