[THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
- From: "Jim Hathaway" <JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:13:05 -0700
You may want to consider looking into the Pnagent then. It pulls it's
config from nfuse / web interface, works fine with CSG, and allows for
desktop icons / start menu icons, and systray access to applications.
Good stuff. ..
J
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Patten
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:57 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
Joe;
I would love to use Only Nfuse, but I have customers who feel
that if it doesn't have a Desktop shortcut then its too much work.
Jason
Thank you,
M3 Tech support
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:35 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
If you have NFuse/WI that would be best... That way you don't have to
expose the XML Service or the UDP Port..
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jason Patten
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:05 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
I don't think I setup to use TCP+Http, its possible however. But I
will check to see if I can get the XML port we defined opened across the
firewall (right now the web server for Nfuse is on the same segment.
And I did get it to work with Nfuse. Just not the PN. I think it would
be a firewall issue if not for the fact the 1.8 servers still work. I
did set Altaddr up if not I wouldn't be able to establish an ICA
connection.
Thank you,
M3 Tech support
Technical Support: http://www.innquire.com/TechnicalSupport/HD
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
His request is to do it without using port 80. If XP won't respond (and
I don't remember right off hand) why it would work if it's on the other
side of the firewall? Or maybe he set it up differently using
TCP+HTTP by mistake.
Jeff Pitsch
On 5/25/05, Jim Hathaway <JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yep, my thoughts as well considering his request was not to make a
> direct connection to his server (he mentioned he can do that already)
> his request was to see his farm via PN from another network seperated
> from the XP farm via firewall.
>
> Old method to enumerate apps would be UDP querries on 1604 with 1.8,
> and XP will respond to this if you tell it to work with 1.8 servers.
> Otherwise, if XP sees 1.8 servers in the same network, you need to
> querry for an app listing via xml.
>
> The link Mario posted is exactly the issue I think he's running into
> here.
>
> If port 80 is blocked, try changing the xml port on the new xp servers
> to 8080, then allow it through your firewall, and define "'tcp/ip
> &http
> - server ip 'port 8080'" when using PN to ennumerate your farm's apps.
>
> HTH
>
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:32 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
>
> Yes, but wouldn't XP turn off response to Broadcast requests if 1.8 is
> detected on the network...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:23 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
>
> 1494 is only for running an ICA connection, NOT enumerating program
> neighbhorhood.
>
> And for Jim H., port 80 (XML) isn't used with UDP connections which is
> what he said he was using when he said he was using TCP/IP connection
> instead of TCP+HTTP.
>
> Jeff Pitsch
>
> On 5/25/05, Mario Nicoletatos <muray_n@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > if I remeber correctly u need port 1494 and a range of port from
> > 4000 upd and up in order for PN to work l'll try to find a doc to
> > cover it
> >
> >
> > Jim Hathaway <JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > You mentioned port 80 being blocked. Did you specify another port
> > for your XML services on the xp servers, and did you specify this
> > port in your attempts to make a farm connection?
> >
> > You need to be able to querry via xml from a PN client...if you want
> > to
> see
> > an app listing.
> >
> > J
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of Jason Patten
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:47 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> >
> > I am missing my XP server license, working to get that resolved, but
> > would that keep the PN from working? I can still establish my 1 ICA
> > connection
> if
> > need be.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > M3 Tech support
> > Technical Support:
> > http://www.innquire.com/TechnicalSupport/HD
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of RMC - Brian Hill
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:43 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> >
> > Is port 1604 opened to/from the XP servers?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Patten [mailto:JasonP@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:33 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> > Yes TCP/IP
> > We dont use the Http port 80 is blocked for our production segment
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > M3 Tech support
> > Technical Support:
> > http://www.innquire.com/TechnicalSupport/HD
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of RMC - Brian Hill
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:11 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> >
> > Using what protocol? Try it with TCP/IP.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Patten [mailto:JasonP@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:49 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> > I did set the PN to specify the XP servers Not the Master of the 1.8
> > farm.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> > M3 Tech support
> > Technical Support:
> > http://www.innquire.com/TechnicalSupport/HD
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of RMC - Brian Hill
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:46 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> >
> > XPa will not respond to ICA Client broadcasts if it detects 1.8
> > servers on the same subnet. In Program Neighborhood, you can use
> > the Server Location tab to specify the XP server(s).
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Patten [mailto:JasonP@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:33 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Metaframe Xpa Request2
> >
> >
> >
> > I have just installed Metaframe XP for 2 servers to start a new
farm.
> > How ever I cannot get a Program neighborhood connection to the
> > servers
> at all.
>
> >
> > I can create an ICA file and connect, but not through the PN.
> > We have a dozen other MF servers (1.8) on the same network in
> > another farm and I can connect to those without any trouble. So I
> > know the ports are open on the firewall and I have Set the outside
> > address using the Altaddr command. I cannot figure out why I cannot
> > get a PN connection to the servers from off that network.
> >
> > On that network segment I can get a PN connection. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Jason Patten
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