For us, the migration really didn't make all that much sense as the servers that would need to be migrated are being decommissioned because they are end of life and will shortly not be supported as a hardware platform. Since this "upgrade" is necessitating a complete rebuild, we just decided to go with PS4 in a brand new farm. The new farm has already been created and installed, and things are working very well. Thanks to all those that responded! -Dave Melczer dmelczer@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, FM Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:27 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame XP upgrade to Presentation Server Again I concur Citrix apparently supports running any version of XP and MPS3 and PS4 in the same farm. Personally I think that not the best idea in the world but they do support it. I would migrate all servers over a short period of time to the same version. Malcolm ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: 09 June 2005 00:27 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame XP upgrade to Presentation Server Actually, that's not true. I've mixed PS 3.0 and PS 4.0 in several farms now with no issue. This really is no different than previous upgrades and if you find a Citrix support person that has thought this through he or she will tell you the same thing. This all started with an incorrectly written readme. The readme has now been updated but it is still a little misleading: MetaFrame Service Pack 2005.4 Required on Servers Running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 Citrix supports mixing servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 and 4.0 in the same farm. Citrix recommends that you update your servers running MetaFrame Presentation Server 3.0 to Service Pack 2005.04. If all servers in the farm cannot be updated with the service pack, update the data collector and the farm metric server, in that order. [#109701] http://support.citrix.com/kb/entry.jspa?entryID=6211&categoryID=619 It makes absolutely no sense to update all servers to 2005.04 and not enable PS 4.0 if you already have the licenses since they are the same binaries. What makes an admin decide to install 2005.04 but not PS 4.0 since they are the same thing? Like I said, it is a poorly written readme. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DMelczer@xxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:56 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame XP upgrade to Presentation Server Thanks for the response, Chad...this was the way we were leaning and your confirmation puts it over the top...and I did some additional research, and multiple farms can be accessed through the old NFuse interface. -Dave Melczer dmelczer@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:44 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame XP upgrade to Presentation Server PS 4.0, should not co-exist with even ps 3.0, unless it has the SP on it, which basically makes 3.0 into 4.0, without the features. I would, and am, creating a new farm for PS 4.0. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DMelczer@xxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:18 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] MetaFrame XP upgrade to Presentation Server Been away for a while due to changing responsibilities, but recently I have been tasked with taking an existing Windows 2000, MF XP 1.0 FR2 server farm and upgrading everything to new boxes, Windows 2003, and Citrix Presentation Manager 4.0 (the latest and greatest available). From what I have been reading, if I want to drop the new PM 4.0 servers into the existing farm, I would need to upgrade the existing XP servers to FR3 first. Is this recommended, or would it be better to create a new datastore and a new farm? The big problem here comes in that whatever solution is selected, the machines would have to be available through our current NFuse 1.1 interface (running an old copy of Columbia for the "enhanced" functionality). Would our current secure gateway implementation be able to access multiple farms? Thanks in advance for any insight anyone can provide. -Dave Melczer dmelczer@xxxxxxxx ********************************************************************** Please be advised that this transmittal may be a confidential attorney-client communication or may otherwise be privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by e-mail (postmaster@xxxxxxxx) or by telephone (call us collect at 212-403-4357) and delete this message and any attachments. 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