Althoug MetaFrame has its bells and whistles, you need to remember one thing: Terminal Services is the car. MetaFrame is the premium package. If you do need the extra features like Published apps, Intelligent Load Balancing, Gateway support, SecurID integration and so on, MetaFrame may be the way to go. Keep in mind for example, New Moon's Canaveral IQ 2.0 when on top of 2003, will give you pretty much everything Citrix does. At a much lower price. I would say 90% of the companies do not need all the features Citrix has and/or are not using them. Also many small/medium companies (another huge market) simply does not go for Citrix thanks to its huge price tag. Even my product, WTSPortal will give you Published Apps and Seamless Windows. :-) So the key thing here to decide which product is the way to go in your case is which features you need or you are looking for. The matrix I saw lists simply protocol comparisons, client support and minor features. Not the whole thing. It is on the Microsoft website. Cláudio Rodrigues Microsoft MVP Windows Technologies - Terminal Server -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anthony Abraham Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:49 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Matrix for Metaframe XP (ICA) and Windows 2003's Terminal Services (RDP) Hi Does anyone have a matrix that compares Metaframe XP (ICA) and Windows 2003's Terminal Services (RDP). Ive seen older matrixes but would like the latest product comparisons. Our organisation is tossing up between the 2 technologies and the breakdown may assist my cause in pushing Citrix Thanks Anthony ________________________________________________________ NOTICE The information in this email and or any of the attachments may contain; a. Confidential information of Credit Union Services Corporation (Australia) Limited (CUSCAL) or third parties; and or b. Legally privileged information of CUSCAL or third parties; and or c. Copyright material of CUSCAL or third parties. If you are not an authorised recipient of this email, please contact CUSCAL immediately by return email or by telephone on 61-2-8299 9000 and delete the email from your system. We do not accept any liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, interruption or any damage generally as a result of transmission of this email. ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. SAVE MONEY by scaling-up rather than buying more servers. http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=147 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm New! Online Thin Computing Magazine Site http://www.OnDemandAccess.com For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. SAVE MONEY by scaling-up rather than buying more servers. http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=147 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm New! Online Thin Computing Magazine Site http://www.OnDemandAccess.com For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm