[THIN] Re: MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company
- From: "Ron Jameson" <ronj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:20:39 -0600
Well put....that thought escaped me. Yes, TS is a workstation and we
all know how a workstation can stay on all the time w/o a reboot (hehe).
Now if the Alpha processor was still here, I may be able to bat for
that, but for now - that will me my note to clients who need it all done
on one server. Rebooting may be a norm with win2k servers, but add TS
to it will just make it happen more often.
Funny, I miss the alphaNT era. I had those servers up like Unix boxes -
put them in a room and shut the light off. With most clients, I see
the win2k servers on intel cpus tend to need a boot every so often. Too
bad. I have yet to put an Athlon MP in production to test it out but I
am getting goose bumps just thinking about the Athlon in a server. As
you can tell, I am an Athlon fan at the desktop and do like them better
than Intel Px models.
Thanks for all the advise.
Ron
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:23 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company
It can be done and will work. But you should purchase a high end
workstation for the TS (anything with SCSI) if you can't afford a real
server. P700 w/ 512 megs, and a 10gig scsi drive will probably be OK
for 5-10 light users depending on the apps.=20
For the $1200 in hardware, it will be well worth it for stability.
Assuming the 5 -10 TS users are light, performance loading down the main
box will probably be OK, but stability will suffer. =20
Let's say the server blue screens once every 2 months, do you really
want to knock the other users offline just for the occasional / light TS
users? Remember a TS is really a workstation. If your workstations
are never re-booted how long do they run without issue? A TS with 5 -10
users is likely only to run 1/5 to 1/10 as long before there is a
problem.=20
TS problems crop up from bad apps, and you know they are going to want
to start adding additional apps (everyone always does). So spend the
money now if you can at all afford it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:ronj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Posted At: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:09 PM
Posted To: TheThin
Conversation: [THIN] Re: MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company
Yes, h/w will be a variable - but what drawbacks to running a server for
a business and also making it a TS in app mode?
Scenario - typical small client....
DC file server running win2k, DNS, DHCP, Norton AV CE, Veritas BE8.6,
diskeeper. They don't want to invest in a separate server for TS access
for the 5-10 employees (low volume use). If I install TS in app mode, I
would now need to install office and any programs they need for the 10
users to access. =20
I see the security risk if open due to the files being on the server and
not thru a share to another data server, but technically (beyond the
security), this can be done? I am trying to find the answer to many
clients I am pitching this thin client idea when they say, can I do this
all on a single server rather than two.
Thanks for the insight. I get spoiled at the main office here running 5
servers with different duties...but when many clients ask what I think
is pushing the limits, they want proof.
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rowlandson, John
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:50 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company
=20
If the server is a p90 with 256mb ram, no...
If it's a 6 way xeon with 4gb ram then yes maybe.....
Depends on your specs of your hardware
john
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Jameson [mailto:ronj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:57 AM
To: Thin Net Newsgroup
Subject: [THIN] MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company
I have stupid question...
If a client with 5-10 employees want to run Win2k TS and thin clients,
can they do this on their main win2k server? I usually recommend
minimum 2 servers - one for TS and another for their main server to hold
data, nav, backup etc.
Can a single server running in app mode - be able to handle 10 users
plus, norton av ce, veritas backup exec and misc. other programs? =3D20
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