Hi Ron, The answer is YES(!). I understand that everyone might like to split all apps into different servers and spend some money, however people that were in this business when dual Pentium Pro x200 were considered the state of the art will tell you: ================================================= YES you do not (in most cases) need 8CPU box to support 10 users. YES you can run database server on the same box. YES you can do some crazy things and get things working when you customer is on a budget - this is what consultants are for. ================================================= Be careful, install clean, know what you are doing, but for a small office this will work. Make sure you use DUAL CPU system with hardware RAID (Mirror is usually the easiest) with a hot spare. I have deployed dual P2x400 HP servers for medical offices with 25 concurrent users running Office and custom Sybase apps (the same box) with ArcServe - they are in production for 4+ years on TSE and MetaFrame 1.8. Remember, that concurrent user count will tax memory when you have users with "idle" habits and CPU when users are very active but are not opening a bunch of heavy applications. Good luck. Post at this user group if you need some specifics. There are a lot of good guys that will help you independently of your customers budget - 32 CPUs or 2(!). Make sure NO SINGLE CPU SERVERS, REAL RAID and about 1GB of ECC RAM. ALEX ALEX >From: "Ron Jameson" <ronj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: "Thin Net Newsgroup" <THIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [THIN] MS Win2k TS for sole Server in small company >Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:56:54 -0600 > > >I have stupid question... > >If a client with 5-10 employees want to run Win2k TS and thin clients, >can they do this on their main win2k server? I usually recommend >minimum 2 servers - one for TS and another for their main server to hold >data, nav, backup etc. > >Can a single server running in app mode - be able to handle 10 users >plus, norton av ce, veritas backup exec and misc. other programs? > >If they have their server already, can the TS service be installed in >app mode but then would all the programs need to be reinstalled? (i.e. >will the server be able to handle app mode programs as well as the >server handling regular server based programs) > >Also, same scenario - but the client has MS SBS2000 loaded with dns, >dhcp, email, data etc. Will this handle TS app mode? > > >Regards, > >Ron Jameson > > >*********************************************** >This Weeks Sponsor: Wyse Technologies >Get a free whitepaper on how to secure >your corporate data from Wyse. Click Below. >http://thethin.net/wyse.cfm >*********************************************** >For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or >set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. > >http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus *********************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: Wyse Technologies Get a free whitepaper on how to secure your corporate data from Wyse. Click Below. http://thethin.net/wyse.cfm *********************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link. http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm