Thanks Joe, I'm currently undergoing attitude adjustment with M$ products, and I wasn't careful about hiding my arrogance. Most of my frustration with MS product and support stems from several bad experiences (that I paid for). In an odd way, that's the price I paid for my education. In retrospect, some of that frustration was probably do to my own ignorance of how to approach some of the problems that that come with managing 1000+ computers. Some of it was initially from not knowing how to phrase the question or who to ask. But, then again, that was before I started THIN. I really do appreciate all of the information and insights I have gleaned from this group on THIN. - my thanks to all, John Joe shonk wrote: > That is simply not true... Microsoft will not charge to tell > they reconize the problem and it's a defect. In fact the > opposite is true. If they reconize that the problem is a > defect/bug with the product, they will NOT charge you for > the incident. Joe > > John Miketta <jmiketta@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I found a quickly test to see if the logon problem > is related to the fixes you > mentioned below: > disable printer mapping and see if your users can > ... once again ... logon > quickly. Since M$ charges an outrageous amount of > $$$ to tell you that they > recognise that they have a problem with their > defective product; I decided to > wait until someone else is courageous enough to > beta their hot fixes. I'm now > getting fairly fast at rolling back to the last > "known good" configuration > and/or doing a complete new build. > > Carlos Sanabria wrote: > > > Hey guys, > > > > I am currently in the middle of SP4 hell, no > option for rollback, and in > > need of a couple of M$ hotfixes: > > > > 824309 - Very Long Logon Time When You Try to > Connect to Citrix MetaFrame or > > Citrix 1.8 > > 822428 - Printer mapping issues (not the actual > title since it is not on the > > public web site) > > > > Both are "private" hotfixes, I have placed all > the calls and what not, but I > > know it will take forever to get them , does > anyone, by any chance, have > > them and could help a desperate in need? :-) > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > Carlos Sanabria, MCSA, CCA > > IT Consultant > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > > Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:37 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone had success with MS SP4 and FR3/SP3? > CTX102523 lists a number of > > hotfixes for a lot of the problems. I have been > told by Citrix that my > > "logon hang" problem should be fixed with SP4. > Given all the problems > > people are experiencing, I feel like I I have to > determine which is the > > lesser of the two evils and go with it. > > > > adam > > > > > ******************************************************** > > > This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint > > http://www.thinprint.com > > > ********************************************************** > > > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available > at: > > http://thethin.net/links.cfm > > > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set > Digest or Vacation mode use > > the below link: > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > > > > ******************************************************** > > > This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint > > http://www.thinprint.com > > > ********************************************************** > > > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available > at: > > http://thethin.net/links.cfm > > > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > *********************************** > ******************** > This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint > http://www.thinprint.com > ************************ > ********************************* > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available > at: > http://thethin.net/links.cfm > > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > software