[THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

  • From: "Rob Slayden" <rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:10:04 -0700

I apologize; I mis-spoke. It was nearly $190K to renew (over 6 times
what we had been paying) OR $650K to buy it all outright again.
Management decided that since we waited 4 years to do the first upgrade,
we would be better off simply waiting another 4 years and buying it all
again (or, as we have pretty much determined, do something "different").
My bad...
 
rob

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Foote, Eric
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:54 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix
for a presentation I am doing


4000 concurrent users = $650K? Or is that total users?
 
Either way we have that in concurrent enterprise licenses and we pay 1/4
of that.
 
Eric

        -----Original Message-----
        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:46 PM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing
        
        
        We had 28-32 servers and over 4000 users and for several years
we paid about $28K-32K per year. Then we received a bill for about $650K
for SA and management said "you gotta' be kidding, right?" We
communicated this to Citrix and they were seemingly un-interested in our
concern. We even had 2 different large integrators in SoCal (Axcent
Technologies and Agile 360) try to negotiate with them on our behalf, to
no avail. Then about 6 or 8 months ago, we had a project that we were
seeking bids for and we had an integrator bring Citrix back in here as
they (Citrix) had indicated an interest. All during the meeting they
indicated that they wanted to work with us and re-establish themselves
as a strategic partner and they seemed to indicate that they were going
to give us a bit of a break on the SA. Well you can imagine our surprise
when the "updated" invoice came for the retail SA amount plus an
additional charge of $30-35K as a late fee.
         
        Thanks for stopping by, but we are so done with that. I think we
are more interested in developing a long-term strategic partnership with
a company that gives a darn about its customers. It just seems to me
that with Citrix, it's all about the money. Pony up or beat it. Not that
they don't have a decent product, but there's more to a company than
simply the software technology. Look at Microsoft; they will bend over
backwards to help you out, including bringing in partners on MS credit.
Citrix? Need support? Talk to our resellers; don't bug us, we're busy
counting our dough. I am sure there are some great success stories out
there and of course, if it wasn't for Citrix, many of those on this list
would not be gainfully employed supporting the Citrix technology, but it
just seems to me that Citrix is turning their backs on their customers
and placing their allegiance in the all-mighty dollar. We shall see what
outcome this produces for them in the long-term...
         
        rob

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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:20 PM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing
        
        

        Did they try to charge you more than you would have paid if you
had stayed current? To me that should be absolute max they charge......

         

        Steve Greenberg

        Thin Client Computing

        34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

        Scottsdale, AZ 85262

        (602) 432-8649

        www.thinclient.net

        steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:13 PM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

         

        Actually, that's not it at all. For what we do, publish Internet
Explorer, it works fine (110 users per DL360 server, not even breaking a
sweat). We just have a bad taste left over from the SA extortion attempt
and subsequent meetings with Citrix to "address" our concerns that
resulted in invoices from Citrix with original SA pricing INCLUDING late
fees. I'm done with them. More power to those that continue using
Citrix...

         

        rob

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:25 PM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

        We come across this regularly with clients that have less than
ideal Citrix implementations in the past (not provided by us!). We
usually come in and refresh the software and create an updated design,
and in the process, use a new naming convention that takes away the word
"Citrix" from the project. Once we do that we have a very high level of
satisfaction.

         

        PS- I see that you are running XP- no wonder they aren't happy!!

         

        Steve Greenberg

        Thin Client Computing

        34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

        Scottsdale, AZ 85262

        (602) 432-8649

        www.thinclient.net

        steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:59 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

         

        Actually, we are looking at potentially yanking Citrix out
completely and going with PMF or pure Terminal Services. Citrix is not
highly regarded in these parts...

         

        rob

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:01 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

        Rob,

         

        Probably not what you are looking for, but if you upgrade to PS4
you can use policies to automatically assign session printers based on
the subnet of each club......

         

        Steve Greenberg

        Thin Client Computing

        34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

        Scottsdale, AZ 85262

        (602) 432-8649

        www.thinclient.net

        steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Slayden
        Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:32 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

         

        Matthew,

         

        I'd be very interested to hear some specifics regarding how you
are accomplishing this as we modify a mandatory profile to change
network printer configurations and when we build a club profile, we
manually add the club's network printers. We have 380+ fitness clubs and
we have Windows TCP/IP printers at each one. We run those queues on
Server 2003 File and Print servers in the data center. We use a single
mandatory profile for each club, which is used by anywhere from 8-18
users. Works great but simplifying the network printer piece would be a
plus. Note that we run MF XPe 1.0 FR4/SP4 on Server 2003 on the
back-end.

         

        Thanks!

         

        rob

        24 Hour Fitness, Inc.

         

        
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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury
        Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:27 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses
for Citrix for a presentation I am doing

        I use a script that installs and removes printers based on AD
groups.

         

        Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+

        Network Manager

        -----Original Message-----
        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
http://ThinHelp.com
        Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:29 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for
Citrix for a presentation I am doing

         

        Hi all 

        I am going to be doing a presentation at CSEIT prior to iForum
on Getting the most of Citrix/Using Citrix across your organization. 

         

        I am looking for additional ideas from people on how they have
come up with innovative/original new ways to save time and use Citrix in
your corporation. 

         

        I have things like ways of publishing MMC's of AD users,
Rdesktops and Exchange Control Panel,  Publishing Printers Folder, Web
interace mods, CSG/WI usage, etc.  Just looking for some other great
things people are doing with Citrix Products that they think others may
not of thought of that other companies could use.  I'll make the whole
presentation available after CSEIT to the list.  

         

        Please post to the list as this could be a great thread also.
Include registry hacks, text you used to publish the item, etc. I'll try
and give credit where credit is due. 

         

        Thanks,

         

         

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