Many things on it are a needed improvement (seamless windows, RDP over SSL, etc). But I still think the way things got implemented, for most small/medium businesses, it is overkill. Way too complicated for the average admin in some scenarios and considering the fact I was in charge of Terminal-Services.NET when we designed our own gateway, seamless windows, etc, I can guarantee you things could have been done much better and simpler. But well, it is a step in the right direction. And if they do all perfectly, there would be no need for companies like mine. :-) Cláudio Rodrigues Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Terminal Services http://www.tsfactory.ca From: "Beckett, William (Bill)" <bill.beckett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:22:24 -0400 To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Conversation: Lognhorn Subject: [THIN] Lognhorn Anyone had a chance to play around with Terminal Services in Longhorn Beta 2? If so, what were your thoughts?