Funny this thread should come up now. Were having a meeting with Citrix to discuss this very same thing in a couple of hours. So far the Juniper seems to be over priced and less capable as compared to the CAG Enterprise HA models. Tony Lyne Consultant Senior Systems Engineer [cid:image001.gif@01C82766.0BE9AC70] +64 6 353 7300 [cid:image002.gif@01C82766.0BE9AC70]<http://www.gen-i.co.nz/> +64 6 356 6800 +64 27 472 0696 tony.lyne@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tony.lyne@xxxxxxxxxxx> www.gen-i.co.nz<http://www.gen-i.co.nz/> 53 Queen Street, PO Box 1470, Palmerston North, New Zealand "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2007 5:20 a.m. To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Juniper My networking team tells me that Juniper does a better job at SSL VPN tunnels. However, Juniper does not have Secure Gateway functionality. If you intend to provide access to published applications without using a SSL VPN tunnel then you will have to stick with a CAG. Published apps through the Secure gateway functionality of the CAG is much faster than running the published apps across a VPN tunnel. From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT) Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:11 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Juniper Does anyone have experience with the Juniper SSL VPN appliance? I have an Access Gateway in for eval at this time, and some would like me to get another comparable unit it, to make the best decision. Juniper SSL VPN 700 was recommended. Anyone with exprience? How does it compare to the CAG? Chad Schneider Systems Engineer ThedaCare IT 920-735-7615