Thats probably why theyre continually remarketing NFuse - MS has nothing like that for TS that i know of - all they have for remote access is simply an open port or that TSWeb thing, which is kinda dull! I guess they only other thing that they can do is to create their own system where they dont use MSTS, therefore getting round the TS licenses.. Would be interesting to see how MS would respond to something like that! Andrew --o-- >>> thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/08/03 15:14:15 >>> I'm sure they realize Microsoft is trying to make a move in... but what can Citrix do? I think eventually Windows Terminal Services will catch up to Metaframe and it's features. The real test will be when MS has a comparable product and jacks up the pricing BIG TIME on the TS Licensing. They have shifted in that direction already it seems. That is to be expected of Mr. Gates. ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. SAVE MONEY by scaling-up rather than buying more servers. http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=147 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm