[THIN] Re: ICA Gateway between MF 1.8 and MF XP (What about NFUSE??)

  • From: "Magnus" <magnus@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:52:55 -0400

Actually another thing that you can do with out worring to much about the
Thinclient hardware and OS is to publish a locked down IE Session for those
users that goes directly to your Nfuse site.  
 
Magnus
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:41 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: ICA Gateway between MF 1.8 and MF XP (What about
NFUSE??)


Ron,
 
Thanks for the info, though that is somewhat disconcerting news. I just had
a conversation with a Wyse engineer though and he has offered up another
"potential" solution that I want to throw out for feedback. He indicated
that if I have 3360 Wyse Winterms with 16MB flash and the 3.51 code, I can
run I.E. 4.0 on the Winterm and access two different MF farms through NFUSE
published apps. Does this sound like a viable option? It might be a lot
easier for us to identify 90 3360 terminals and ensure they have enough
Flash memory than deploying 90 new terminals, which we are hoping to avoid.
 
We have never previously had a need for the NFUSE product so I have not
really looked that closely at it. Anyone running it and able to extol its
benefits?
 
Thanks!
 
Rob Slayden
24 Hour Fitness, Inc.
 
 
----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:44 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: ICA Gateway between MF 1.8 and MF XP
 
Sorry to break the bad news but this isn't going to happen. MF XP needs to
run in mixed mode. And the Gateway 1.8 was a two way thing between 1.8
servers There is no gateway feature in XP since it is not needed. 1.8 needed
it since its browse list was built by broadcast and therefore limited to the
local subnet and you needed this to span subnets with the farm. XP does not
use this method so it will not work. 
 
So the only thing to do (in your case) Is create an XP farm in mixed mode to
incorporate the 1.8 servers. At least one of the XP servers will have to
reside on the same subnet as the 1.8 servers. This will allow you to migrate
from the existing 1.8 farm to XP since Mixed mode is not meant for long term
use (best practice not longer than a month, Longest I have seen it
successful before problems start to occur 8 weeks.   Longest I have SEEN it
run. 5 months but the farm was falling apart by my standards at that point.
 
In anyway you are going to have to upgrade or keep two different farms.
 
 
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
 
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Slayden [mailto:rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:29 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] ICA Gateway between MF 1.8 and MF XP
 
We have a fairly large MF 1.8 farm (27 servers-NT 4.0 TSE/3800 Wyse Winterm
users) and we are about to deploy a small MF XP farm (3 servers-W2k3/90
users). We use Wyse Winterms (3350 and 3360) and we want to enable access to
BOTH farms from the same Winterm. It appears that the ICA gateway will fit
the bill nicely. My question is the ability of the ICA gateway to function
across disparate versions of MetaFrame. I have two questions related to this
problem:
 
Has anyone used the ICA Gateway functionality across MF 1.8 and MF XP?
As each farm will reside in its own subnet, is there a better solution than
the ICA Gateway to enable this access?
 
Note that the option to upgrade the MF 1.8 farm is cost-prohibitive as we
would need to purchase a LARGE number of TS CALs and W2K3 CALs (not
currently in the budget!).
 
On another note, I FINALLY get to attend Citrix iForum after 4 years of
managing a large MF farm. I am looking forward to networking with others of
"my kind" and hearing about the different implementations of Citrix
MetaFrame, not to mention the technical breakout sessions! I will be taking
my family and am wondering if anyone has any good family-oriented hotel
recommendations. The Swan and Dolphin look like they would be fun for the
family but the rooms are a little pricey, even with the iForum-attendee
discount. Is it just me or does anyone else think Citrix could have worked
out a better deal than $239 per night??!!
 
Thanks for any and all responses.
 
Rob Slayden  <><
NT/Citrix Systems Engineer
24 Hour Fitness, Inc.
2234 Rutherford Rd.
Carlsbad, CA 92008
760-918-4787 - Work
760-802-8498 - Cell
760-918-4854 - Fax
rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 

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