[THIN] Re: I would love to deploy CSG, but.....

From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:59:11 -0500
The problem is that Microsoft itself gives you different answers depending
on who you talk to.  I was given that as an answer from my rep, as well as a
couple other things which others on the list have said they were told is not
true.  I'd just get your M$ rep to give you an answer, get a second opinion
from another rep if you can, get the Clearinghouse to tell you, and then
pick which of the answers you like best :).  Make sure you have it
documented from your source so that you have someone to point a finger at.

-Paul

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> Sent:         Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:51 AM
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> Subject:      [THIN] Re: I would love to deploy CSG, but.....
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> 
> Interesting, has the argument been elsewhere other than in the list?
> 
> Ultimately could that "virtual session" argument cover your butt in an
> audit?  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:33 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: I would love to deploy CSG, but.....
> 
> 
> 
> Yes and no... there has been an argument for some time about whether each
> virtual session should be considered for licensing purposes, or each
> remote
> machine.  I.e. each user really is 1 virtual session regardless of the
> number of remote machines they connect to.  
> 
> -Paul
> 
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> > From:       Seitz, Linden[SMTP:L.Seitz@xxxxxxx]
> > Reply To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent:       Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:28 AM
> > To:         'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject:    [THIN] Re: I would love to deploy CSG, but.....
> > 
> > 
> > But if I publish MS Word explicitly to Joe User he can still access from
> > anywhere so I guess I don't see how allocating just one Office license
> > sufficient.  Or am I seeing it wrong?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:10 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: I would love to deploy CSG, but.....
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You can't without allocating enough licenses for your remote users.
> > Essentially, you either guestimate or have the same number of licenses
> for
> > Office as your Win2K TS CALs.  Then you know you're good.
> > 
> > Or... if you are only publishing apps, not desktops, then at the least
> you
> > know the number of users.  Allocate based on that.
> > 
> > -Paul
> > 
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> > > From:     Seitz, Linden[SMTP:L.Seitz@xxxxxxx]
> > > Reply To:         thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent:     Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:59 AM
> > > To:       Thin@Freelists. Org (E-mail)
> > > Subject:  [THIN] I would love to deploy CSG, but.....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I would love to deploy CSG in my environment to provide access to my
> > > Microsoft Office applications, among others, but CSG's feature of
> access
> > > "anytime, anywhere, anyplace" seems to conflict with Microsoft's
> > Licensing
> > > Requirements for Office applications.
> > > 
> > > If I am reading it correctly, the EULA for Office states ".....you
> must
> > > acquire and dedicate a license for each separate COMPUTER on which the
> > > SOFTWARE PRODUCT is RUN ...."
> > > If I deploy CSG how can I be sure to remain in compliance with my
> Office
> > > licenses if Joe User can access Office apps from home, the library,
> > > Grandma's house, etc.
> > > 
> > > Can anyone please shed some light as to how they have dealt with the
> > issue
> > > of deploying access to Microsoft Office apps via Metaframe and what
> they
> > > have done as it relates to staying compliant with the Per Computer
> > aspect
> > > of
> > > Microsoft's Licensing?  Thanks!
> > > 
> > > P.S.  Man, I hate licensing!
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