[THIN] Re: How many servers?

  • From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:51:49 -0400

And there are some apps that TScale does absolutely nothing for.  It's a
matter of testing.

-Paul

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> From:         Brian Madden[SMTP:brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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> Sent:         Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:23 PM
> To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [THIN] Re: How many servers?
> 
> Keep in mind that TScale's effectiveness is largely dependent on the
> applications.
> 
> In my experience, TScale works best with the big stupid apps, like SAP,
> Peoplesoft, Meditech, Oracle, etc, etc..
> 
> If you're only using Office, TScale gives maybe a 5-10% advantage instead
> of
> 35%. (I'm sure there are some back-door shenanigans going on at MS where
> their apps just "happen" to run more efficiently than other non-MS apps..
> which is why TScale doesn't work as well with them.)
> 
> Brian
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Matt Kosht
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:28 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: How many servers?
> 
> Take a look at Tscale (http://www.rtosoft.com). It will pay for itself and
> then some by increasing your servers user capacity.  In my experience
> about
> 35% more capacity or getting 4 server capacity with only 3 servers is my
> rule of thumb. If you are estimating 7 servers you could get by with as
> few
> as 5. 
>  
> A nice bonus is some apps will run noticeably faster. 
>  
> 
> 
> >>> Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx 9/24/2003 10:52:14 AM >>>
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> Currently I am running 17 Win NT TSE servers w/2GB or RAM; these servers
> will go to their knees when they get to the 40 user count.
> 
>  
> 
> I have been told to get us NEW servers so we all finally agreed to
> purchase
> ProLiant BL20p G2 X3.06-512 Dual Processor Blade servers with 4GB of RAM.
> 
>  
> 
> I am going through a brainstorm here trying to figure out how many servers
> to ask for...
> 
>  
> 
> The average user takes up form 24MB to 45MB of RAM per session; and we
> would
> like to be able to always have an off-line server or at least if one fails
> to not decrease the users performance.  So far I have counted 1 server for
> CSG & NFuse, 1 server for STA, and 7 MetaFrame XP Win 2003 servers.
> 
>  
> 
> Does this seem like a good amount?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Miguel Enrique Guzmán <mailto:Miguel-Guzman@xxxxxxx>  CCA
> 
> Network Analyst I
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> 
> Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it
> holds the universe together.
> 
>  
> 
> 
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